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Brian Easton says you are entitled to wonder how we can pursue 'trust' in government and 'cohesion' in society without considering inequality. He is looking to the Budget Policy Statement for some progress, particularly on child poverty

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Brian Easton says you are entitled to wonder how we can pursue 'trust' in government and 'cohesion' in society without considering inequality. He is looking to the Budget Policy Statement for some progress, particularly on child poverty
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This is a re-post of an article originally published on pundit.co.nz. It is here with permission.


The parliamentary year opens on Tuesday 8 February, with the Prime Minister presenting a statement to the House which reviews public affairs and outlines the government’s legislative and other policy intentions for the next year. It has a wider scope, and is less detailed, than the 2022 Budget Policy Statement, a 33-page document released at the end of December by the Minister of Finance with the Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update.

This Budget Policy Statement begins with the Treasury’s ‘four capitals’.

  • Human Capital: Our People and Skills;
  • Natural Capital: Our Environment;
  • Social Capital: Our Connections;
  • Financial and Physical Capital: Our Built and Financial Assets.

This is an attempt by the OECD to extend the narrow growth model of economics to a wider notion of wellbeing. Fair enough, but what strikes this economist is that distribution of wellbeing does not appear in the framework. Indeed the term ‘inequality’ is not used in the entire Budget Policy Statement document except in the titles of a couple of references. The government appears to be not engaging with a major concern of many of its friends.

I have been working in the area of distributional economics, of which inequality is a part, for six decades. It has been at the centre of my research program and it proves integral to understanding how an economy works. It has been a hard slog because most economists avoid the research area because they think it too difficult, or they think it irrelevant, or because they think it involves only value judgements. Yet as soon as they begin to discuss public policy issues or even many practical analytic problems, they begin to touch on distributional economics and they bring related value judgements to their discussion.

For example, the third OECD capital includes ‘trust in institutions’ and ‘social cohesion’. As a rule, societies with high economic inequality have low trust and poor social cohesion. You may not be surprised at such a finding, but you are entitled to wonder how a society can pursue trust and cohesion without considering inequality. In particular thirty years ago a National Government deliberately increased economic inequality; probably social cohesion and trust fell.

I said that New Zealand has higher inequality than it once had. Very often it is difficult to trace changes in inequality – many who pontificate on the subject do not have much grasp of the complicated analytic underpinnings of the measurement – but in this case I am confident that economic inequality increased markedly. (In my In Stormy Seas I argued that the increase dramatically changed the political economy of New Zealand; that is a more tentative conclusion, although nobody has yet challenged it.)

However the lens of distributional economics identifies some government concerns which are about inequality. For instance there is a handful of mentions of child wellbeing in the budget policy statement. This may not be surprising given the Prime Minister is Minister Responsible for Child Poverty Reduction. (While the Budget Policy Statement is in the name of the Minister of Finance, it is discussed intensively by cabinet ministers.) One gets no sense that a major reduction in poverty is a significant priority for the 2022 budget even though achieving the government's aim of halving the rate of child poverty would greatly reduce inequality.

There is a practical reason for this. Reducing child poverty is fiscally expensive. Recall those measures thirty years back which increased inequality thereby doubling child poverty. They involved big tax reductions on those at the top. The government wants to halve the rate of child poverty. Those measures will have to be broadly reversed to do so. That means higher taxes, especially on those at the middle to upper end of the income distribution. However, the Minister Responsible for Child Poverty Reduction has ruled out raising tax rates. How she expects to square the circle is unclear. It is a task for mañana.

Certainly there is no hint in the Budget Policy Statement that the 2022 Budget will raise tax rates; there are plenty of hints that if they were to be raised the government has a long list of worthy purposes on which to spend any extra revenue. Child poverty does not appear high on this list.

Let me finish by pointing out that the above analysis above does not say we should reduce child poverty nor that we should raise tax rates. I have my personal view on such matters, but the presentation here is analytic, of the sort of ‘if’ leads to ‘then’. It describes the logic involved in implementing the Child Poverty Reduction Act.

Once distributional economics is mastered, the conclusion is not difficult. I’d like to think that somewhere in the Treasury there is a paper which explores this. I imagine the Secretary of the Treasury who saw it went white, had it toned down and showed it to the Minister of Finance, who also went white and left it in his inbox while he got onto thinking about the 2022 Budget.


Brian Easton, an independent scholar, is an economist, social statistician, public policy analyst and historian. He was the Listener economic columnist from 1978 to 2014. This is a re-post of an article originally published on pundit.co.nz. It is here with permission.

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Child poverty begins with entitled parents.

Work is the only solution out of poverty- no amount of policy statements can substitute it.

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“Child poverty begins with entitled parents”!?!?

I need to walk away from this one CWBW, I’ve always stayed on the fence when people have a pop at you. Sorry but I’m starting to agree with them. 

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So who is responsible for the upbringing of a child? The state?

We will be a nation of orphanage if we subscribe to such a perverse ideology.

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The increased poverty statistics have been caused by the biggest mismanaged transfer of wealth that I’ve ever seen. Most families are hard working with ever increasing costs ie rent +5%, food +5%, petrol +30%

Ive got 3 kids under 13. What do you reckon they could do for work? Ship building?? They could squeeze into tight gaps 
 

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Your wealth transfer theory appears so because you aren't earning enough. If you earned enough, you would had been able to stop the relativity by buying the same assets your counter part is buying therefore negate the appearance of such transfers. Your problem is with failed initiatives in quality job creation in this country.

If cost and flexibility are a paramount concern, then family planning is crucial.

It makes no sense for someone complaining about tight financials and still went ahead to have many kids.

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You know absolutely nothing about my financial position or my family situation. 
I’m well paid. My kids are happy and respect the old man, they don’t want for much and make me proud every day with their caring/kind natures. I teach them the value of hard work and that we are all equal. I also teach them that there is always going to be the odd dickhead in the world, they are usually easy to spot, they wank on about capital gains and investment properties…

Look me up on social media if your obsession with me leads you that way. I’m not hard to find… 

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CWBW this is the ghost of Christmas past saying be nice to your tenants,or as Jacinda said be kind.

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So many people here talking like work is a dirty word.  I was picking berries per kg at 10, the legal age for driving a tractor in NZ 12.  At 11 my boy was doing 4-5h a day cultivating, he loves it and is the envy of his class at school.  Kids learn a lot from working and from my experience they want to do it.  If you wanted to find work for them I'm sure you could.

Costs are going up, but for $100pw per child the govt could end child poverty in NZ.  This would cost about 20M per week or 1B per year.  The interest on that would be 25M per year, which for the team of 1M net tax payers works out at about $25 each and I am sure they are happy to pay it. 

I hated Jacinda before she was elected because she was blaming child poverty on a failure of capitalism.  Children in poverty come from families on welfare, so it's a failure of socialism that she has had years to fix and still done nothing about! 

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If the state has no responsibility for the well being of our children then let’s cease all accommodation supplement payments immediately to these reckless parents and see who whinges the most, the people in poverty or the rich landlords. 

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Exceptional point. 

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In the USA gold was illegal to have going back to 1974 had to sell any gold to government for a pittance. Maybe this should happen in New Zealand but with houses ,one house each family the government will buy them off you for a pittance under a emergency act,and give them too family’s for small amount of rent which would go into fund to help keep community clean and save. How would this go down with you CWBW could happen 

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Seizure of property & land. Collectivisation . Food & clothing next. Holodomor. Right from Stalin’s playlist. If you are going socialist, don’t just dip the toes in. Go the whole hog. Just kidding.

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Just saying government can do whatever they like just as long most of the people are with them landlords are people who own more than one or two properties and if they push people too far to the point it is costing most of what they earned ,taking away property from landlords could become popular with most.

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Or the governments could just let poor people die, that could become popular with rich people, you know the ones who actually run the country.

The thing is, it is about having a balance, it is the parents responsibility to look after their children and help them succeed. It is also the governments to ensure an environment that means children have an opportunity to succeed and contribute to society. As a parent the main reason I work is to give my children an advantage, otherwise why work I don't desire a luxurious life style.

Total equality that means no matter what you do every child has equal is not the way, neither is taking away all reasonable opportunity for a child simply because their parents are poor. Its about getting that balance right, and it is hard. Absolutes are easy to understand but seldom make sense in practice.

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... I have this niggly naggly feeling that a big chunk of child poverty is a consequence of our insane housing & rental prices  ... 

The upshot of this governments policies ,  coupled with the Reserve Banks antics ... have been to make the divide between rich & poor a Grand Canyon  ... 

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Feelings.

Now there's your problem.

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The a banksters and govt created this problem, yet will they be held accountable or just tax us?

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Work is the only solution out of poverty- no amount of policy statements can substitute it.

So at what age should we be sending children off to work and what type of work would you have them do? The chimney sweeping industry isn't what it once was.

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If not chimney sweeping theres always the Nike factory. Small hands make for such delicate stitching.

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I'm against child labour in sweatshops, it's the quality of workmanship that suffers.

Kiwifruit picking?

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Tried that, little buggers kept falling of the stilts.

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Ah, yes, that might damage the fruit.

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Bit out of touch there, the new New Balance shoes have what looks like a totally machine made upper. Its machine fabricated in one piece, very clever so it naturally breathes better, its stronger without the stitching and lighter. It is however not cheaper, perhaps those machines are pretty expensive compared to child labour.

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NB is your brand? That is congruent.

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Nice strawman or you need to go back to school to brush up on comprehension.

Since when did I talk about sending the child to work? I'm talking about the parents.

Can't feed, don't breed.

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It appeared ambiguous to me.

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Ah yes, only the people who can afford to have kids should have them. Now let's not reflect on how living costs blew out so much and what part your investment choices and attitudes may have played in how we arrived in our current situation, because self-awareness is for chumps, from what I can tell. 

Tell me, who should bear the brunt of people having children that they are incapable of raising? Or should those kids just end up wearing it because your low-rent talkback philosophy and being smug about it is more important than the actual issue of children in poverty? 

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You struck 2 important themes in the conversation.

  1. Don't cumber human evolution.
  2. Think ahead or live the consequences.
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Sorry, was I meant to think ahead to a generation of morally bankrupt New Zealanders utterly corrupting NZ at a policy and political level for their own putrid self-interest, and sheer determination to ever accept responsibility while they piss their pants over how everyone else is the 'snowflake'.

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So you are advocating for some sort wealth based eugenics? Well that clears things up...

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The epitome of class warfare.

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And when you could afford to breed, and work full time, but the greedy have houses increase $800k since you entered your relationship, rents double and inflation is the highest in your life time?

Just be born 10 years earlier? I guess.

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All countries have greedy people, not all have insanely high house prices, look elsewhere for your scapegoat!

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Basically any family on a benefit is living in poverty, there are 205k children in families living on a benefit which is very closely aligned with the number of children living in poverty.  Maybe we should just increase the benefit until it is the same as what someone would make if they were working.  Poverty solved, easy.

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So children of landlords? I.e entitled people who think they need to own many houses during a housing shortage (that they don’t need for personal shelter, while inflicting financial repression against younger generations - now that’s entitlement)

 

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Without us, renters will have to register themselves with MSD. If they can't afford to buy with the existence of landlords, they can't buy even without them.

We're providing a valuable service to the public.

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My hero

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That comment really shows how out of touch you are. It borders on narcissistic sociopathy. Perhaps you would you prefer we address you as "mi Lord"...?

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As I’ve posted before, I’ve found a high correlation between property investor class and Narcissistic Personality Disorder - even some complete psychopaths..ie they Don’t care how they hurt other people in the process of enriching themselves/getting what they want.  Normal people care if their actions impact/hurt other people. 

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That correlation is clearly a lot higher in the political classes

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Where did you get your psychology degree? You are very impressive diagnosing people based on post on as forum, it makes me wonder why psychologist take so long to diagnose people when they meet them in person.

 

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Their hoarding behaviour isn’t the worst part, it’s their obstruction of increases in supply.

Adequate supply will bring down prices. The dominant voting block in this country does not want that, so they collude to prevent this from happening (tacitly or explicitly). It’s not about “character” or productive soil, it’s about keeping prices up. This is why most of the policies to remedy the situation involve helping FHBs “get on the ladder” (grants etc.), not increase supply.

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There is a degree of truth in what you have said, of course.

But it's also a vast oversimplification. Again.

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Nah. In large part it begins with parasites like you stacking the deck against non-homeowners. Your class has been the biggest beneficiary of government intervention in recent years (especially the last two). Why don’t you do something productive with your capital?

People get sick, divorced, and affected by any number of other vicissitudes life can throw at you. The world isn’t deterministic enough for “family planning”.

 

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Child poverty should always be at the top of any discussion regarding inequality. The systems we have in place, particularly the Covid19 response, have been an absolute disaster. We need to stop protecting the asset class and establish some sort of equilibrium. The finance minister has a big job ahead, no doubt. 

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Poverty is a relative measure ie 60% less than the median income after housing costs or 50% below median income before housing costs, children in these households are living in poverty.  It would take a lot of 'distribution' to top up those at the bottom to get everyone above that threshold.  Every extra dollar spent increases the median income target so it becomes a 2 steps forward, 1 step back problem.  Much easier to tax the top income earners more, thereby lowering the median wage, but that doesn't actually make anyone's life any easier.

You can do a combination job, reduce housing costs, tax the rich more to lower the median wage and increase housing subsidy to get those on the bottom above the threshold.

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Who gets something and who gets to pay for it.  I guess you could call it politics instead of distributional economics, we all want something and we all think the other guy should pay for it.

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The average wage family are paying a huge rent as have no chance of buying in today’s prices the people who are benefits have no chance and just live from week to week.if the government don’t start to focus on helping to give these family a better life society is just going to breakdown even more,huge amount of people in Auckland living in cars and on the streets.burglary and violence is on the rise what do people do if they cannot afford a roof over family’s head and food the kids get the brunt of this situation. 

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2017

Jacinda Ardern's goal: End child poverty

www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/08/jacinda-arden-s-goal-end-child-…

2021

A Child Poverty Action Group stocktake, co-authored by Asher and released on Wednesday, found the Government has failed to fully meet any of the 42 recommendations made by its own Welfare Expert Advisory Group in 2019.

If enacted, Asher says they would’ve cushioned the blow for society’s most vulnerable children, with research showing an extra 18,000 were pushed into poverty in the first year of the pandemic. Roughly one in five children is in a household which receives a benefit.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/127197895/covid19-slow-action-o…

An absolute failure by Jacinda and the Labour Government. How the guilt of it all doesn't eat Jacinda alive is beyond me...

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Rather than enact those other elements of welfare reform, Robertson has just decided an extra tax to cushion salary-earners is the way to go.

The Welfare Working Group was an absolute sham, a waste of time and a can-kicking in cynicism. Bill English's abandoned Social Investment program would have done far more for our most vulnerable, but no one wants to talk about that. 

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St Jacinda? Never! Affected sincerity, frowny face. No mirror on the wall could ever crack that facade.

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This deserves a million likes.  Also Grant Robertson as the pandemic was taking hold: "We cannot let inequality take hold!".... then between his reckless actions and the RBNZ, they proceeded to give $100b's to the already wealthy.

And the RBNZ recently backed that call by saying none of that caused anymore inequality (if we remove asset prices from the analysis). Absolutely unbelievable.

These clowns at the top are ruining the country and we are all too doped up on netflix and accommodation supplements to do anything about it.

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Good article Brian, if only to illustrate that there is always a simple answer to complex problems...but unfortunately, a wrong answer.

If nothing else the record of governments since the days of Seddon's "wonderful" introduction of social welfare around 1900, is that child poverty won't be solved by taking money from "rich pricks" and giving to the "deserving poor". In the extreme, Communist Russia showed that even backed by brutal police, the redistribution process just eliminated both rich & middle classes, with the main beneficiaries being the "apparatchiks ", ie the party faithful & the bureaucrats. Ditto Maoist China.

And in NZ we have a rapidly expanding civil service, paid above average wages, with all manner of "caring/sharing" programmes, but with deteriorating statistics by almost all social measures.

I can't fault the charitable motivations of friends involved in (eg) school lunches/opshops/foodbanks, etc., which are simple reaction to immediate distress. But general levels of widespread pauperism need something much more complex than just income redistribution, & I suspect "tough love" policies must form a part of mending our society.

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Simply put if you eat the rich, then you solve inequality because everyone left alive is poor.  In reality it's a social issue that govt is not equipped to deal with.  Having had my share of 'tough love' as a kid I view it more as an excuse for cruelty than a form of love, but that's just me.  I think that just like there are super motivated high energy people who just want to go, go, go, there are also the opposite who want to do as little as possible.  Not saying either groups are happy or not, but human personalities cover the whole spectrum and you can expect a relatively even distribution at all points.

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Can't trust this article because it mentions at the start that "government thinks".

This government has not thinking power.

If they ever thought about doing something, we wouldn't be in such a mess right now. 

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Old saying that it takes a village to raise a child is wrong.

It only takes 2 parents.

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I think this Govt is in for a very large dose of reality very soon. I just drove into town to drop my daughter at a friends and there was a convoy of vehicles with NZ flags, anti mandate banners, anti Jacinda banners etc and the streets were lined with people. I can still hear the car horns from my house 30 mins later.

Sure there were some cling-ons in there, anti-vax, Trump flags etc but I could not believe how many people were there! Never seen anything like it in my 50yrs as far as protests go. There are reports all over the country of thousands of vehicles converging on Parliament? Yet I can't see anything in mainstream media? Is this America, government control media?

Jacinda is very good at blurting out pre rehearsed speeches about being kind and equality blah blah blah but I am convinced it is all absolute BS, her and her government have done so much damage to this country that directly contradicts her carefully chosen words.

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Interesting.

They are completely tone deaf. 
Robbo saying that the survey results aren’t what kiwis really want!?? The survey seemed pretty black and white. 77% of kiwis want house prices to drop. 

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What Robertson means is that if house prices drop, our country goes into a severe recession or depression. And politically that is obviously bad…so we no longer want affordable houses…because affordable houses (as a result in the drop of nominal, not real, prices) will mean widespread misery for everyone…as opposed to just widespread misery for those who don’t own assets by maintaining status quo 

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I agree but thats the problem with just a single ambiguous question isn't it ? Most people cannot see the next step in the process. Perhaps rephrase the question to include do you also want a massive crash in the economy and you lose your job with that ? Pretty sure that 77% will drop pretty fast.

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I would have thought increasing child poverty stats and the vast majority of the citizens not feeling listened to is politically worse. 

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Both National and Labour are pro status quo regardless or what they say prior to elections - that is maintaining the status quo and widening the gap between asset owners and non-asset owners.

There will be a tipping point though…like any point in history where the oppressors (property owning wealthy) push their advantage too far against the oppressed. 
 

Im reading about how Lord Melbourne handled the swing riots in England of 1830 - the rich property owning class were terrified of a French style revolution - would appear much like how the current landlord class are terrified of any action that might alter the current conditions we have across the anglosphere (if you own property the state will continue to make you wealthier regardless of the price paid by the poor). 
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_Riots

 

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We are miles away from that tipping point, the world has also changed a lot since 1830. There has always been rich and poor, thats just the way it is. Lets be honest, half the poor made bad decisions that put them where they are and a small percentage are totally beyond help. 

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Oddly the current crop of stale, pale, males come across like a present day Marie Antoinette

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Are you talking about Labor?

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Why use such a cliché? Just write current crop of stale people or something like that. However feel free to explain why it would be acceptable to disqualify someone because of gender or skin colour.

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The current government is a prime example of what happens when you focus on how decision makers look and and sound as opposed to whether they're capable of actually making anything happen.

I'll take pale, male and stale men who can actually get stuff done over leadership and governance that is a box ticking exercise in diversity and nothing past that. 

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I don't buy it that will mean severe recession when they went up most important things didn't get better, why would it get so bad if they fell, I think house prices went up 25% last year, if they fell by 20% it would just bring them back to last year prices, which where too high to start with.

Oh yeah the wealth effect, perhaps people should not spend money based on overvalued assets, sorry I forgot the battle cry of both the Labour and National governments, CONSUME.

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Smudge, is that Nelson? Friends of ours there, commented on exactly the same scenario. Getting to grow to infamous 1981 Springbok tour proportions. Now there was an event that split NZ asunder. It is not an agreeable sight, but New Zealanders will rally against unfairness and injustice, certainly when they have had more than enough. This government in its sublime self satisfaction failed to see this coming.

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I cannot recall a government who so divided & polarized kiwis as this one ... the 1981 Springbok tour was a NZ Rugby Union brain fade ...

... Jacinda & her merry band of boofheads are in a different league entirely ... 

The latest in a long line of insane policies is associate housing Minister Poto  William's considering rent freezes ! ... as if that hasn't been tried overseas many many times , and utterly failed 100 % ...

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Oh Piggy had his poker deep into that tour too. Saw it as a vote winner. Personally found the scenes shocking. One New Zealander fighting another, out on the streets. Can’t escape an ever growing disquiet that history is about to repeat. This government through incompetence and ignorance ( i’m assuming it is not intentional) is splitting NZ, economically, socially and disastrously. All hail the Red Queen!

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No I am in New Plymouth Foxglove. It seems this Govt may well have pushed NZers to the point where they have had a guts full? Says a lot as its a pretty high threshold in NZ!

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Oh the government is sure to label them all as maniac anti vaxers. Yet 94% of New Zealanders are vaccinated. Any early school child could work out the ratios on that contention, per body of people, as being utter bs. 

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94% of 5 million minus the under 5's. Yet that convoy has only 'hundreds' of cars.  So millions versus hundreds.  Doesn't sound like it's a large proportion of pissed off Kiwis at all.

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94% of 5 million minus the under 5's. Yet that convoy has only hundreds of cars.  So millions versus hundreds.  Doesn't sound like it's a large proportion of Kiwis with a gut full.

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It's in every single mainstream media outlet in NZ. Oh it's a big conspiracy... Against the truth! What a load of crock. Reading about the hack add ons to the protesters playlist did make my day today though!

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Stability of a roof over ones head and the ability to achieve such is the greatest leveler of equality, along side regular food and clean water. Instead the Govt has chosen to support endless exploitation of working Kiwis in via endless debt servicing for global bank owners. This is the greatest lever of inequality. Simply shameful.

Lost all faith in the Govts ability to make any coherent decisions.

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