The number of Government departments will reduce, $2.4 billion will be redeployed elsewhere, sinking lids will be placed on budgets and an in-principle target will be set for the number public servants in the Government’s public service reform over coming years.
That workforce target would remove almost 9,000 workers from the public service by mid-2029.
From Auckland's North Shore, Finance Minister Nicola Willis announced the sinking lid on most agencies’ operating budgets aimed to “drive progress” on streamlining the number of government agencies and entities, digitising customer-facing and back-office government functions, and restoring public service numbers to "historical norms."
Baseline savings would be set at 2% in the coming year for most agencies, followed by 5% each year, for two years after.
"Those savings add up, and have created significant headroom for higher-priority investments, a total of $2.4b over the forecast period, averaging $597 million a year," Willis said.
She said that would go into health, education, infrastructure and defence and police.
Increased use of AI
Willis said over the next three to five years the number of agencies would be "significantly" reduced - with agencies asked to come up with proposals to “logically merge their existing activities around citizen-facing functions, using common technology platforms.”
“The overhaul will reduce the number of government departments, increase the use of AI [artificial intellingence] and other digital tools, and deliver significant savings,” she said.
Public Service Minister Paul Goldsmith said between 2017 and 2023 the size of the public service expanded from 47,000 to more than 65,000.
“That growth rate was nearly three times faster than the overall labour force, while back-office and support functions grew significantly faster than frontline service delivery roles," Goldsmith said.
“As part of the programme, the Government will restore public service numbers to the historic norm by mid-2029. That will be an in-principle target of about 55,000 public servants."
“Reductions will be achieved progressively over several years through digitisation, mergers, simplification of systems and processes and natural attrition,” he said.
Willis said the 55,000 target is about 8,700 fewer workers than in December 2025.
Following the announcement in Auckland, Interest.co.nz asked Willis whether the Government had considered a lower or higher target before arriving at the 55,000 figure, which is based on population growth.
“When you look back historically for 22 of the past 33 years, including under previous Labour governments, public servant numbers were at or below 1% of the population. So our judgement was that’s a good benchmark to aim for and is achievable,” she said.
The agencies exempt from baseline savings were the NZ Defence Force, police, Oranga Tamariki, Corrections, Ministry of Health, Ministry of Justice, Ministry of Education (except tertiary functions), GCSB and SIS, Education Review Office, Crown Law, Ministry of Defence and the Serious Fraud Office.

'Extensive and significant'
Ahead of Willis' Tuesday afternoon speech, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon said the pre-Budget announcement on the public service would include some of the most extensive and significant reforms agencies have seen in decades.
"What we're doing here is we're saying, look, the public service has been organised in a certain way over the last 30 to 40 years, it's right and appropriate we take a good look at that and say, could we better organise?" Luxon told reporters on Tuesday morning.
"The second thing is that there's an opportunity to really leverage technology, all with the primary goal of being able to deliver more effective public services and be much more efficient with taxpayers' dollars, and ultimately also building out a public service where the best and the very brightest actually want to come and work here..."
"We've got some very serious reforms that we've got to get underway. It's pretty exciting work," he said.
Luxon said he suspected there would be job losses - some through attrition and others "over a period of time".
"The public service is not a make-work function. It's not here just to maintain jobs and maintain a position of how it was always run since 1995 in the same way," he said.
Asked if it would be some of the most extensive and significant reforms to the public service in the next few decades, Luxon said, "I do and I think it’s long overdue".
"What's tended to happen is successive governments have come in and they've just added to what we already do, rather than... step back and ask the question, is this a cluster of activity that actually should be working more together?"
"Is there a need for us to have all these backroom functions when we could do that much more efficiently?"
He expected the plan to make savings, but added the primary objective was a more effective and efficient public service.
Labour public service spokesperson Camilla Belich said it seemed as though in the "last budget women paid for Nicola Willis's budget, and this time public servants and their families are going to be paying for the government's budget".
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Ideological claptrap
When is someone going to overlay these fiddlings-at-the-margins, with reality:
https://axismundi001.substack.com/p/the-metabolic-theory-of-civilisation
These folk have come in too late, with no understanding. Perhaps we could examine that divergence, Interest.co?
I don't see why you need 100 policy analysts writing opinions to each other.
2-3 hard decision makers would be quicker and arguably make better decisions.
Also why develop 'policy' when there is negibible implementation skill.
AI is great at this stuff
Yes, why have policy people giving ministers well thought through options when we could have the country run by a couple of ill informed people making decisions on a whim
Agree. The shit the Treasury puts out is a good example.
So we are going to contract out the public service...likely to the tech bros.
More currency heading offshore.
Appears that way. They reckon customer-facing and back-office systems will be digitised, with AI embedded “as a basic expectation for all public entities” with the aim to make services “easier and more affordable” for people to interact with.
Given that the govt decision makers will have no idea where to start, no experienced leadership in AI implementation, and that the MIT “State of AI in Business 2025” report found that only about 5% of enterprise generative AI trials produced measurable financial benefits with the remaining 95% either stalled or showing no clear ROI, I don't see how this is possible.
https://mlq.ai/media/quarterly_decks/v0.1_State_of_AI_in_Business_2025_…
I imagine the consulting firms are going to make out like bandits again. That is not improvement.
AI implementation, for most organisations is firstly a data pipeline, storage and access problem. Organisations think AI is going to somehow magically solve their problems and automate tasks but their data is all over the show in different legacy systems, CMSs, cloud platforms and even bloody spreed sheets! If they haven't already addressed these issues in the last 10 years of the cloud something makes me think they wont in the next 10 years and therefore not make any meaningful move towards AI automation.
Bravo. I've found a kindred soul. The "magic box" thinking is not just a public sector thing though. It's everywhere.
And Willis will know jack sh*t about what it all means.
It means less "money' circulating within the national economy and all that implies.....not least of which more demand to sell NZD....unless you believe it will be reinvested here.
Agree, it is everywhere and not just public.
building out a public service where the best and the very brightest actually want to come and work here.
Yeah, cause people really love working for organisations that have major restructurings every 12 months.
Jacinda's Labour ran on transformational change and National are basically doing nothing. So yeah if they are going to do nothing then they will need less public services.
Jacinda's Labour ran on transformational change
I think it would be a big mistake to go back to that social experiment JJ. As it relates to public service, as an example, an ambassador high-tailed it out of the country where she was assigned as border lockdowns beckoned during the Covid period and worked from home back on full pay in Aotearoa. That was OK under the system back then, but it's not what we need from a credible public service. Similarly the appointment of Goff and Mallard in diplomatic roles shows just how ridiculous the Kindness period was.
Are you saying the current austerity period is better? People who criticise the previous government seem to be blind at how bad this one has made things!
Spending for the sake of spending is a suboptimal solution. It's not about qty of spend but everything to do with the quality of spend.
Within the organisation of it all there will be a thin red line of capables that will be doing the doing and fixing and to be cynical about it, will likely be the first to go.
"building out a public service where the best and the very brightest actually want to come and work here..."
Like S'pore? We need to be realistic. The S'pore civil service combines competent technocratic agencies, cross‑agency collaboration, and continuous learning so that ideas can actually be implemented. And their civil service is recognised as efficient and incorruptible - it ranks at the top of the Blavatnik School of Government’s Public Service Performance Index for effectiveness and innovation.
While this initiative may reduce the numbers of public servants, what extra initiative is there to assess what gets done and how they do it.
What drive is there to create effective and efficient competence rather than BAU?
Having dealt with several departments and government procurement processes, that really is a pressing need.
Wellington service businesses and property holders are royally screwed........just a lot more so, than the rest of NZ, over the next few years.
Wgtn property market, set to be down a REAL 60 to 70% by 2030.
Wellington service businesses and property holders are royally screwed........just a lot more so, than the rest of NZ, over the next few years.
Unlike Canberra where the real estate agents have a spring in their step and debauchery is rampant across the hospitality sector most nights of the week.
Yeah the Aussies are a bunch of idiots, look how much better our government are doing…
Governments of all varieties struggle to see that some of their costs are also sources of revenue. For example, when they built the CRL, they say it cost $6 billion, but they would have got a hell of a lot of that back through tax, gst, increased economic activity, etc. Likewise when they make cuts like this, it will cost them in tax revenue and reduced economic activity. Increasing the unemployment rate decreases the government’s tax revenue and grinds the economy to a halt.
As usual we are counter cyclical in our choice of government. We need a borrow and spend government right now, and a cost cutting debt reduction government when things are going well and the unemployment rate is low. The last one to get it right was Michael Cullen.
Disagree here. Nothing wrong with building out infrastructure, but you're exhibiting the policy wonk behavior that needs to end.
For ex, the cycle bridge fiasco. Some people got handsomely paid, kitchen renos happened and tradies got jobs from this, office space rented, income taxes paid.
But the public ultimately got nothing in return. That is the kind of govt ineptitude that we have to stamp out.
How is a cycle bridge any different to these RONs that we obviously can’t afford yet National are persuing? Most of them probably have a worse business case.
A cycle bridge could be bloody useful if fuel goes up more, a $20 billion 4 lane motorway to a small city in northland not so great.
Useful for what?
Think big-picture.
So many folk think shallowly; all else being equal being the usual failure.
Who is going to be going where, for what?
Answer that, first.
Cycling
You could be a public servant right now.
Or a politician.
How is it different?
Oh, only about $50b different.
The consulting sector did extremely nicely out of the last Labour-led government.
One great big rort!
Fewer public servants to create red tape and transferring the savings into health, education, infrastructure and police sounds fantastic !
Agree. But most of them aren't even productive enough to create red tape!
I've seen a lot of aimless policy wonk stuff in those government ministries.
This is the type of "promise" the National Party makes like clockwork in every electoral cycle, based on previous experience the chances of it occurring are probably 0.01% to 0.05%.
They are going to do nothing, but it will force Labour to robustly praise/defend something unpopular.
Great. This will also have a meaningful impact on Civil Servants ability to top up their loss making property portfolios. Expecting another significant leg downwards in price as their rental risks get shortened up before the end of the year. Or, weird as it may seem, perhaps they will hold on for grim death and pray that a Lab - Green - Maori coalition will prop up the global bank profits over leveraged within this region.
They both - all? - needed the Ponzi to continue.
Physically/mathematically, it couldn't.
And appears to be isn't.
Wipe that saliva off the corner of your mouth Averageman.
It's a valid point, though. This will smack down the Wellington property market even further. But only assuming the Right wins the election.
Labour would no doubt keep, and even increase, the bloat.
If you (a government) wish to reallocate (human) resources then you need to incentivise the areas of need as you remove areas of (perceived) inefficiency ....another half arsed job.
We won't even hire the nurses we graduate (e.g)
If we outsource our policy making we will end up with the same problems we have with infrastructure...a state without the ability to assess whether the "advice' they are receiving is valid or not.
Dumb and dumber.
Not a National fanboy, but this is great.
There's just so much bloat in the bowels of the public service.
Won't be good for Wellington's CBD, yet the public service should not be a charitable service for Wellington's hospo scene. The city will have to work harder and smarter.
Will be just as bad for property values....hope all those MPs have reassessed their portfolios already
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