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US joins ECB saying more rate rises are coming; eyes on stress tests; China profits fall; Australia CPI inflation falls; UST 10yr 3.72%; gold unchanged and oil firmer; NZ$1 = 60.8 USc; TWI-5 = 69.4

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US joins ECB saying more rate rises are coming; eyes on stress tests; China profits fall; Australia CPI inflation falls; UST 10yr 3.72%; gold unchanged and oil firmer; NZ$1 = 60.8 USc; TWI-5 = 69.4

Here's our summary of key economic events overnight that affect New Zealand, with news the world is waiting to see what direction inflation will take from here and how fast it will move.

But first, American mortgage applications rose again as another indication the US housing market is coming back to life. The rise from the prior week was minor, and this was despite virtually no change in the benchmark mortgage interest rates. It was the third consecutive rise, but to be fair it really isn't out of the lifeless pattern it has followed since late 2022. But at least it has halted the fall they had between the recent peak in late 2020 and late 2022.

There was other American data released overnight and none of it was market-moving. Both wholesale and retail inventories were little-changed in May. And the May merchandise trade balance came in slightly lower.

Later this morning the US Fed will release the results of its annual stress tests, their health check for a group of large American banks. It is expected to show they have ample capital to weather any fresh turmoil in the banking sector. Each time they do this, they update the stresses they are being subject to, so it isn't strictly an "improvement from last time" exercise.

In Europe at the ECB Forum on Central Banking, Fed boss Powell said at least two more rate hikes are on the table this year because of the very strong labour market in the US. At the same talkfest, ECB President Lagarde and Bank of England Governor Bailey both said they expect further tightening measures to cool down inflation too.

In China, more indications of their economic funk. Profits earned by their industrial firms dropped by -19% from a year earlier in the first five months of 2023, on weak demand, and margin pressures. The decline followed a -21% plunge in the prior period and a 4% fall in 2022, with profits shrinking in both state-owned firms and the private sector.

And while it touts its 'opening up' it is in fact closing down with new harsher national security restrictions. These are rules that can be used to target foreign firms in a retaliatory way for perceived slights in international relations. It will be more risky to invest, and especially send managers to China because these new laws gives Beijing the legal authority to hold these investments hostage to other matters. It is an unfortunate own-goal in their effort to push-back against the Western campaign to de-risk from China. Further, China does not recognise 'dual-citizenship'. According to China, Beijing considers a Chinese-born individual a Chinese national unless they specifically renounce their citizenship. (This is particularly tough on Hong Kongers who never decided to be a Chinese nationals in the first place.)

The scale of early mortgage repayments in China is becoming clearer and showing why it is having a broad economic impact. Fitch reports early mortgage repayments climbed to a five-year high in China at the end of the first quarter and they also see a new record high for Q2-2023. The rate of early repayments was 14.5% in Q1-2023, up from 8.5% in Q4-2022, their report showed.

In South Korea, consumer sentiment continued to improve with another good gain in June.

In March in Australia, CPI inflation was running at 7.0% pa. But yesterday they released their May inflation indicator which has it easing to 5.6% pa. That's a 13 month low. The RBA next reviews its cash rate target on Tuesday next week, so the chance of a hold then might have gone up. But then again 5.6% is still way above their target and the RBA doesn't always do what the markets think the signals are. Besides, some are noticing a rise in inflation expectations.

The UST 10yr yield will start today at 3.72% and down -5 bps and in a yoyo pattern recently. Their key 2-10 yield curve inversion is little-changed at -101 bps. Their 1-5 curve is more inverted at -137 bps. And their 3 mth-10yr curve is also more inverted, now by -140 bps. The Australian 10 year bond yield is now at 3.86% and back down -8 bps. The China 10 year bond rate is still unchanged at 2.71%. And the NZ Government 10 year bond rate is up another +2 bps at 4.60%.

Wall Street is closing its Wednesday trade with a minor -0.1% slip in the S&P500 and basically holding on to all of yesterday's rise. Overnight, European markets were mixed with London up +0.5% and Paris up +1.0%. Frankfurt was in between at +0.6%. Yesterday, Tokyo ended its Wednesday trade up another +2.0% in a strong afternoon session. Hong Kong was little-changed however, up a mere +0.1%, and Shanghai ended unchanged but after making back earlier losses. The ASX200 ended its session up +1.1%. But the NZX50 only managed another minor +0.1%.

The price of gold will start today at US$1912/oz and that's unchanged from yesterday.

And oil prices are +US$1.50 higher from yesterday to now be just under US$69.50/bbl in the US. The international Brent price is now just under US$74.50/bbl. An unexpected run down of US crude oil stocks might be the key reason here for this firming.

The Kiwi dollar starts today at 60.8 USc and down almost -1c from yesterday and back to where it was two weeks ago. Against the Aussie we have slipped slightly to 92 AUc. Against the euro we are -½c softer at 55.7 euro cents. That means the TWI-5 has fallen to 69.4 and down -60 bps since this time yesterday.

The bitcoin price has slipped from this time yesterday and now is at US$30,144 which is a -1.9% retreat. Volatility over the past 24 hours has remained modest at just under +/- 1.2%.

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Well, apparently Xi and many Chinese want a rebalancing away from excessive wealth and inequality. Wealth is being destroyed.

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Xi wants to stay in power, and as the Labor government so expertly demonstrates, you can deflect criticism during rough times by division and blame. End of analysis. 

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In what may be the beginning of the end for European nations, Germany and France are determined to reform national rights, including the EU right of veto, this year. The debate has caused a stir in recent months, and in recent weeks, the measure has been put back on the agenda. Link

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That is why UK wanted out, and got out of the EU. Back to being an island nation, off the coast of Europe. Not a big deal. As the EU flexes it's muscles, UK will, as usual, sign a treaty with the 2nd most powerfiul entity in Europe. Which of course will be a post Putin Russia. The EU will desperately try to expand into Russia after he goes, but I hope will be unsuccessful. Lots of humour and tragedy potential unfolding over the next few years.

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It is tough on Hong Kongers certainly but bear in mind the territory was, as with Macau, only leased for want of a better word. Add to that the “lease”:was coerced by dint of the opium wars that some Western Powers had inflicted on the then China, and for which it was known to be hopelessly outclassed militarily.

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Hong Kong Island was never leased, it was ceded outright after the first Opium War. Likewise Kowloon after the second Opium War.  You're thinking of the 'New Territories' which were leased in 1898, and which do make up the bulk of the landmass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong#Administrative_divisions

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There it is.

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Indeed it was always a temporary lease. Just remember when Hong Kong was officially given back to China it was something like 20% of the Chinese economy. Hong Kong ren would look down on Chinese mainlanders (and still do) who came across, mostly regarding them with disdain.  Now Hong Kong is around 2% of the Chinese economy, almost exclusively to do with China's huge growth and its basically on the same footing as any other Tier1 city in China.  I would say Shanghai is probably far more wealthy and has much better local social systems as well (they have these cool neighbourhood watch like groups, mostly made up of old people that clean up streets and make sure locals feel safe, report issues to police etc, kind of like a more visible Maori wardens that we have in some spots around NZ).

Unfortunately China has been scoring a lot of own goals recently with its treatment of foreign money and firms/people.  Many Chinese people are often quite racist unfortunately and their Nationalism that is growing in their country is making it more overt as well.  Friends there have told me the mood has changed considerably in the last decade or so.

The other thing to remember is that China remembers the defeats and ceding from the opium wars. Much of its military buildup is related to this psyche that they have been abused by the West before, so have to be strong militarily to stop it happening again. Which isn't wrong if you were to look at history with an unbiased eye.

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As explained above, only the New Territories were leased. 100 years, 1897-1997, no right of renewal. The actual island of Hong Kong was seized much earlier, and was only subject to Chinese claims of ownership. Same with Macau. Neither were leased but UK and Portugal both voluntarily handed them back to China, at roughly the same time as the NT lease expired.

As for other rubbish stated above, China only recognizes weak and strong, nothing else.

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"Voluntarily"... China built a replica of Hong Kong on the mainland in the 1990s and practised an invasion of Hong Kong if UK failed to give it back. China flexed and the UK flinched. Portugal had zero chance of fighting back and bit the pillow first chance it got.

If Spain was half as strong as China, and had nukes it would get the Rock of Gilbraltor back off the UK in a heart beat... "voluntarily" of course;)

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Two strong democracies like Spain and UK would never go to war over a little rock.

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https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/132432229/national-would-scrap-reserve-banks-sustainable-house-price-requirements

 

 

Eaqub is spot on. Any aspiring FHB voting for Blue is a Turkey voting for Xmas.

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Eaqub is still pissed a decade after he spectacularly and public misread the property market, becoming a laughing stock. 

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I wonder which commenter he is on Interest.co.nz? 

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I think he's half of them

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Eaqub is on record as saying he would never buy a house to live in as it was so disadvantageous compared to his renter. Is he still sticking to that? Or like most economists, was he wrong then, and therefore highly likely to be wrong now as well. On whatever topic he talks.

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he bought a while ago, stating that while it maybe economically didn't make sense it did from a stability/family perspective

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and that's the point so many don't understand on this site, many only see the financial side.

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Maybe but Albert is still right about a vote for National and their dogshit housing policies. 

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How has having it in there worked out for us over the last few years?

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I was referring to his comment regarding all the other pro-speculation policies National want to introduce. Cameron Bagrie also today nailing it with the statement we aren’t going to prosper as a nation selling more and more expensive houses to each other. 

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Yes National care about next year's tax free capital gains and not much else. Their policies will make more of our young people leave. They probably have plans to import an excessive amount of new people so they won't care. 

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The irony of diminishing returns by running future cashflows into the ground importing more and more low wage workers.

Couldn't make this up - if I were a property investor, long term investment, I would stay the heck away from National. What's the alternative though...

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Values go up under Labour because they are inflationary. 

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Might need to get my glasses, but pretty sure values are going down aren't they?

Or do you mean CPI? Which is fine if we invest in productive work effectively, tax effectively and match CPI with wages. And the outcome is higher house prices, but more inline with wages.

I can't see a way out of this mess without spending and taxing more. What will constraining spending and relieving tax incentives for speculation achieve for us in 5-10 years time? sfa

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on average. If you look at the value differenced between when a party gets in and when they get the boot, traditionally asset values increase the most under a labour government 

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What do you think could happen under each government next term? Not being snarky, genuine interest in your opinion.

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And again, my comment stands: How has any of that worked out for us over the last three years?

I'd love to  see a fraction of the scrutiny some are willing to apply to National applied to the performance of the government we actually have. 

It seems these things only matter in the context of stopping someone else. Anyone else. Otherwise we might have to be honest about the situation we're in, and holding everyone to the same standard is probably going to be important for getting out of this mess. Unless it's not really about that at all. 

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Covid was an anomaly. House prices particularly in Auckland were flat from 2017-2020. The government has little control over the actions of the RBNZ pumping the country with cheap credit that led to the covid boom. 

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"The government has little control over the actions of the RBNZ pumping the country with cheap credit that led to the covid boom."

This is not true.

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"I'd love to  see a fraction of the scrutiny some are willing to apply to National applied to the performance of the government we actually have"

Labour's excellent policies are helping sort the housing crisis. It has not solved them but it is pointing things in the right direction.

Interest rate hikes which are set by RBNZ and globally driven are the primary cause of the house price crash so Labour can't take credit for that. 

National plans to reverse Labour's policies and have no alternative policies to solve the housing crisis. 

Happy now. 

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National are making it hard for those who want to vote for them but just cannot stomach their pro landlord, F Off if you don't own property policies.

 

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"F Off if you don't own property!" quickly followed by "Hey, where the F did all the renters go!?"

Saw a lovely exchange on socials between two keyboard warriors. Situation is dire out there, if you don't own property, you are "jealous scum", and if you do you are "a greedy f-witt". A nation of losers, seriously wtf is going on.

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A conversation that would not be necessary if housing was reasonably priced.

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If housing was reasonably priced, I would have bought a few dozen.

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Yep, that's the problem

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That's encouraging - we need to make it socially unacceptable to own more than your own home  - invest elsewhere.

It is immoral to have someone pay for a home whilst the title goes elsewhere.  

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Since when has socially unacceptable and immoral been a barrier to investment? If we don't like stuff, make a law against it.

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Speak for yourself.  For many of us it is. 

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The house price stability mandate was introduced in March 2021, prices topped out later that year and since then have gently fallen. Pretty good result. 

Whether there is any causal relationship between the two or housing is just collateral damage from the inflation battle, I couldn't say. 

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Gently fallen...off a cliff

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Equub was wrong for a long time about houses until he flipped. He's wrong again. Nz house prices have alot more to do with what goes on on Washington and Beijing rather than Wellington. Forget NZ pollsters, watch USTs for market direction.

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Nice try, but its our own stupid government and councils that caused it:

  • Interest rates were 2%
  • Housing speculation was tax free
  • Very restrictive planning rules
  • Builders must use local monopoly materials

National want to bring 3 of those 4 mistakes back!

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I think his decision was changed once he started a family which is fair enough. Renting with a young family in this country is abysmal. 

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The same commentators that used to say all the same things as him now laugh that he was wrong!

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Really...??

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Stupidity almost always outlasts reason. Being right about the problem and wrong about the timing is the rationalist's trap.

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Rents as a share of income haven't changed in quite a while, and with incomes rapidly rising, rents are following suit everywhere except Wellington. 

I expect Wellington to be back to a normal renters market by January however, as the backlog of unsold houses eases. Many of those would have been rented out in the last year or two. 

https://johnbutt.substack.com/p/rent-prices

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There is still some good rental income out there if  you can find the right tenant.

"“The same Government that banned private companies from importing rapid antigen tests now admits it’s spent $45 million in 14 months on storage for expired and expiring rapid antigen tests (RATs) and PPE that will likely never be used,” says ACT Leader David Seymour."

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Incompetence, or malice? What do we think? 

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Follow that money trail, someone "connected" with the Labour government just got given a massive back hander. $45 Million ? did they need to build the warehouse to put it in ? This stinks about as bad as it can get. someone needs to investigate, its the sort of RATgate situation that would bring a government down.

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There is never a right renter or a good landlord.

It's always a greedy landlord and miserable renter. ( think deeply on this statement before posting replies) 

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My parents have been renting their whole life and they have been doing so very happily.  I also think they have been great renters.

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Are your parents in NZ?

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Probably live somewhere with proper housing laws like Switzerland.

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( think deeply on this statement before posting replies) 

Everyone casts themselves as the protagonist in their own tale.

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Because 14 months ago it was so plainly obviously a good idea to keep minimal stock of RATs and PPE?  Can you imagine the uproar if they ran short on RATs? Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't...

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You think $45 million for 14 months storage is value for money?! The tests didn't have any special storage requirements. No wonder we had the 2nd most expensive covid panic in the OECD.

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"...we had the 2nd most expensive covid panic in the OECD."  and the fewest deaths.

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The fewest you ignore the the 80 odd countries with a lower death rates/100k and our excess deaths still running at 10% above normal.

$45 million to store some cardboard boxes is a disgrace. Did we get to keep the warehouse?

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

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Less than $10 per person. Seems reasonable.

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Err if they are all expired or about to expire the whole lot are now heading for the local tip. That's $45 million down the drain plus what it cost for the test in the first place or am I missing something ?

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It's an opportunity cost. What would be the cost of not having tests on hand?

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Zero. I always thought the RAT tests were a complete waste of time and money. If you felt sick stay at home, that doesn't change with or without a test does it ? The only difference is that you know you have Covid or you don't have Covid. Of more use to me over 2 years later would be an antigen test to know if I have even had it or not, but apparently thats not possible.

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This clever and highly successful dude acknowledges the strong role of luck in his and other’s success (coupled of course with hard work and talent): 

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/afternoons/audio/2018895939/k…

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Stop it, we all know wealth has nothing whatsoever to do with luck, it's all 100% down to personal effort /sarc

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There has to be an element of personal effort/skill. Otherwise we wouldn't see so many big lotto winners become paupers within 3 years.

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..and how lucky some out to inherit and be raised with these fine attributes of personal effort and skill. 

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Skill, work ethic, money management, etc are largely learnt from your parents, winning lotto won't change that. The luck component is the parents you get not the money you are gifted. 

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Lucky sperm club.

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Should have worked harder at choosing better parents.

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Sorry but this is such a defeatist attitude. "I have no influence over my own life, so I may as well give up and complain about my circumstances and blame others"

Well, you do that, I will keep trying to better my life, thanks.

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"I will keep trying to better my life" - because you were taught to do so. 

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NOPE NOT AT ALL.  My parents were good, nice people but "driven" they were not.  My dad was an employee his whole life (mostly for the same company), he was too scared to take a mortgage to buy a house.  Why do you have such difficulty accepting that we can change and improve our life, no matter our background? 

 

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Why cant you accept that if you were born elsewhere with different parents you would be doing ram raids? Wrong time wrong place and you'd be a Nazi camp guard.

We are a product of nature and nurture. That is down to luck.

Stop flattering yourself. You are not different. 

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While it does have an effect, I can point to several families where one brother has ended up before the courts many times, or in prison, and another brother has done quite well for themselves, never been arrested and done alright for themselves. 

Sure, if you were born into a mongrel mob family you are a distinct disadvantage compare to being born to a well off family with two university graduates as parents, but you still have agency and can determine to a large extent your own path through life.

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Well said Pragmatist.  Also there are plenty of children born in great circumstances to good, wealthy parents who have completely fuc#ed up their lives.  So no, how well one does in life, is not just down to how, when or who to one is born.

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Rastus, please read my comments before assuming:

by Yvil | 29th Jun 23, 10:31am

Circumstance (or luck) and personal effort both shape the outcome of one's future

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"Stop flattering yourself. You are not different" . Hmmm, I am different, certainly different to you Rastus and kiwimm, don't you agree?

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I'm ok - I chose my parents and upbringing well and this has put me in the privileged position to find opportunities that may not be available to others. 

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You cannot be helped.

edit:  Actually that's exactly the point, people are trying to tell you that you can improve your life, but you categorically say "NO, I CAN'T".  So you're right YOU can't, but others who are more open minded, CAN.

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Completely agree that personal effort is required but luck is completely understated. You can work industriously and never catch a lucky break or you can get lucky with average effort and you'll become wealthy. 

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Circumstance (or luck) and personal effort both shape the outcome of one's future.  There is no way one can influence luck or external circumstances, therefore it's best to focus on what one can control and improve, being oneself, instead of complaining about circumstances and blaming others.

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May I suggest people read Steven Covey's "The 7 habits of highly effective people" he talks about being "proactive" vs "reactive" in detail.  It's one of the best books for self-improvement.

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May I suggest you acknowledge that luck is the largest determinant of how your life has turned out - it won't hurt.

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Wow, I almost agree with you for once, especially the bit about focusing on what you can control.

The only bit I would say differently is that it's completely OK to complain about circumstances and blaming others if that complaining can help change the system that brought about the unfair circumstances.

System change comes through individuals complaining about the current system and supporting those who know how to change it.

I personally cannot save the planet from climate change effects but I can complain about all the fuckwits that put their personal benefit over the long-term health or our life-supporting ecosystem. If enough of us complain, others who might be scared of complaining will see they are not alone and also complain, and then some politicians will realise there is votes in it and stand on platform to put environment over profit and we'll get legislative change. 

So we almost agree but not quite. 

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In my nearly 7 decades the harder & smarter I worked the luckier I got.

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Imagine if no one had ever taught you that. 

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Exactly. I have had to fight against my faithful Irish Roman Catholic upbringing all my life. Bits of it are great. Bits have held me back.

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Good on you for questioning some of the values you grew up with Sit23.  This is proof that one can change and improve oneself.

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Yep but it probably all started with where you were born, what type of country you lived in, how healthy you were. Plenty of variables that have nothing to do with effort or smarts that would have also influenced how successful you were. 

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agnostium, do you not agree that people have some influence over their own future, and that it's not all due to luck or lack thereof?

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How much of that is predestined by their genes, upbringing or surroundings? It gets interesting when you dig deeper - yes hard work will make your life better. So where did the desire to work hard come from? Where did the ability to work hard come from? It's luck all the way down...

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The fact there's a grey area means

- when you're failing, it's because of someone else

- when you're winning, it's all you

Fundamentally every person is finding the boundaries of where the tail is wagging the dog. You can definitely impact the mental framework you view the world through via your own exploration though. There's quite a few mindsets around that are antithetical to succeeding, in many areas of life.

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"- when you're failing, it's because of someone else

- when you're winning, it's all you"

If this was more widely understood then we would get better progress as a society. It's one of the reasons successful people oppose state led measures to increase equity once they themselves have benefitted from it. See boomers voting to start charging students for tertiary education, housing policies that benefit those who have already bought, universal super benefits while cutting other benefits, etc...

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mfd, if "It's luck all the way down…", why don't you just give up on life?  Don't go to work, don't look for a partner, don't be kind to your friends, eat whatever, take drugs, and don't exercise, since "It's luck all the way down…"

Or is that the way you currently live your life?

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Ha, this was the exact question that I got asked at one of the Oxford entry tests. If we are a product of our environment and genes how can anyone ever be guilty of a crime?

Yvil's way is one way of answering but not the only one. Will not bore you with philosophy 101 but it is a fascinating question if you are interested in understanding the human condition. 

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Ha, funny that you used to be one my pupils, it sure is a small world!

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Doubt it, I would have remembered you. 

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No, it's not. I do my best to have a good life, playing with the extremely fortunate deck of cards I was handed. It's easy to clean up the game of life when your parents provided a stable upbringing and a good education, and provided me with the genetic disposition to take on that education and use it to my advantage. It would be crazy not to use such gifts. 

Others were handed different decks, maybe short a few crucial cards. It's much harder for them to get ahead. This realisation that I am only where I am because of genetic and societal luck gives a little humility, more compassion for those who struggle, and more desire to spread my money around where it can do good (I'm working towards 10% of my income going to charity - stepping up the % every new year and pay rise).

There are a huge number of people living in poverty who could have achieved more than me if they had the same chances. 

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@Yvil, you really should take a course on logic. 

I never said that it is all down to luck, I said it is a combination of both luck and effort, there are many variables that determine wealth. It pisses me off when people say it is ALL down to effort. The role luck plays in success is almost always understated by those who are wealthy. There have been many studies carried to prove this human tendency. 

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That's what you said agnostium:

by agnostium | 29th Jun 23, 9:55am

Yep but it probably all started with where you were born, what type of country you lived in, how healthy you were. Plenty of variables that have nothing to do with effort or smarts that would have also influenced how successful you were.

No reference at all to "effort".  I on the other hand, acknowledged both sides:

by Yvil | 29th Jun 23, 10:31am

Circumstance (or luck) and personal effort both shape the outcome of one's future.

Lastly look up the meaning of "logic"

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Read what I wrote again Professor

"Plenty of variables that have nothing to do with effort or smarts that would have also influenced how successful you were"

Notice how I said also. Your grasp of logic is worse than your grasp of Metereology. 

Have a nice night. Actually scrap that. 

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Kiwikidsnz, I knew someone that had that printed and stuck on his home office wall.

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I've always liked his writings

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Inflation is totally running out of steam, but the Central Banks of the world want to keep raising to create unemployment? Are they dim? Once again they prove they are incapable of understanding the basics of their job. 

It takes time for interest rates to be felt, it takes time for people/instruments to come off old rates and onto new ones, right throughout the economy and financial systems.  Energy prices have recently had significant drops, which underlie most of our inflation. At this point, its only OPEC holding up inflation, the reporting of which is behind current state.

I guess they want to be seen to be doing something even if its the wrong thing. Idiots.

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Core inflation in the US isn't coming down much and that's what the Fed cares about the most so they're going to keep going. 

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"Create Unemployment" might just be code for "Keep Wages Down". The Central Banks know that we have a demographic time bomb exploding beneath us all. The Retirement generation is now in full swing, and they didn't produce a replacement or suitably qualified workforce - anywhere in the Developed World. We are all in population decline - hence the scramble to poach what workers there are from each other.

As we move into the last lap of the retirement phase; a phase of more people being supported - one way or another - to do nothing, the wage pressure is going to be immense. So getting the Wage Demand demon back in the bottle is crucial. But we know how that works out, don't we? So expect much higher OCR/Cash Rates in the near term as Central Banks struggle against the insurmountable.

(NB: We know the answer - it's Lower Prices, not Higher Anything Else. But that will be fought to the death)

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If only we had a political party willing to balance foreign profits with productive internal spending supported by a fair tax system. We have a hoarders problem, and we don't want to touch it with a 10 foot pole because we're afraid those people might whinge and whine.

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Paywalled however the headline tells you all you need to know. No surprises there.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/three-waters-cost-blowout-expected-…

 

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No surprises, especially given the government already told us 10 entities was going to be more expensive than 4.  Personally i think they should deal with scale by handing it all over to the regional councils.

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Yeah, they're implementing something expensive and difficult to do in 10 areas instead of just 4. 

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Too bad non-economic reasons prevent weaker oil from helping consumers with lower gasoline prices. It would be a tiny silver lining as recession accelerates, still every little bit would've helped. It does suggest more possible downside in gas, not that rate hikers pay attention. Link

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REALLY? #Fed's Powell says at ECB forum in Sintra: Don't see us getting back to 2% inflation in 2023 or 2024. The M2 Money Supply trend signals otherwise. Link

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I see Three Waters budget estimates have blown out big time. Water users everywhere will be paying for this arrogant approach. This could lose Labour the election if National can play it the right way.

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New Zealand isn't on its own by any means.

"Water nationalisation as Thames Water teeters on the brink...Fears are growing that the collapse could trigger a domino effect across the industry, which is laden with £60 billion of debt built up during years of lower interest rates. "

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/06/28/government-preps-nation…

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"Thames Water provides drinking water and waste water services to 15 million customers in London and the southeast of England." Is that a closed loop? Would they tell anyone if it was?

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It's all a closed loop on a global level

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The National pretend there is no problem approach should fix it. Who needs water anyway...

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Hopefully they are smart enough to spend three billion on water pipes instead of on consultants like Labour are planning to do... Which will turn into 6 billion of course.

Eject the numpties first and then judge.

We can't afford Labour/Te Pati/Greens for the next three years.

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National are not better at spending our money than Labour, they still waste the same amount on consultants (in fact they tend to spend more as they generally try to cut the public workforce).

I work for a consultancy and have worked for central and local government and if you think keeping public wages and staff numbers low saves the taxpayers money you are completely wrong. Public servants leave with their redundancy paycheck and then contract back in to do the same job at x3 the cost. 

The only way National "save" money is:

- by cutting services (which Labour then has to pay x2 more to set back up again when they get back in power) 

- Selling public assets - we then get charged twice as much by the private sector for the services we used to own

- borrowing massive amounts of money and foisting it on future generations/governments to pay it back, normally hiding the debt in things like PPPs

The NZ National party has moved away from it's roots as a centre-right party and is now just a proxy for vested corporate interests

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"National are not better at spending our money than Labour"

But Labour are certainly better than any other party at wasting our taxes, actually if it was an olympic discipline they would take the gold medal easily!

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You would know.

Aren't you concerned the emergency housing funding might be cut back if National get in power?

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No, I'm not worried Jones, for two reasons;

1) even if National get in power with Act, the acute housing problem won't be solved and even if it was, very few people would be willing to accommodate people from WINZ, it's a tough job that requires someone on site 24/7/365.

2) we only have a portion of our accommodation set aside as emergency accommodation, the majority is still for travellers, trades people, sports groups, school events etc...

Even if Labour is better for us providing emergency accommodation, I will not be voting for Labour.

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We have stayed in motels etc that have mixed use of beneficiaries and tourist/business accommodation. It doesnt work

You say it yourself Yvil "it's a tough job that requires someone on site 24/7/365."

 

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Fair point FH, and I agree with you.  I would not have beneficiaries and regular travellers staying next to each other, or even in the same building.  We are lucky to have several buildings, and we do keep WINZ people in a separate building.  We could make more money by accepting more beneficiaries but I don't want to do this.

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Must keep you busy as you hardly have any time to comment on here these days :)

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"But Labour are certainly better than any other party at wasting our taxes" 

Are they? I think on transport, you could argue that National chewed up all the money on mega highway projects that return very little value for money.

There are plenty of other examples from both Labour and National where our money has been wasted, I don't think it's a general rule that holds. 

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In Europe at the ECB Forum on Central Banking, Fed boss Powell said at least two more rate hikes are on the table this year because of the very strong labour market in the US. At the same talkfest, ECB President Lagarde and Bank of England Governor Bailey both said they expect further tightening measures to cool down inflation too.

Bank lending in the Eurozone is an important credit channel for the real economy. Recently, banks are paring back lending as loan demand falters due to high borrowing costs. Yet, the ECB will keep hiking into this...Link

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Interesting illustration. In the US's desperation at being overtaken by China and faced by a Russia unwilling to be bullied by the US, it's response has been to lash out at its own vassal state Germany, like a psychopath geting a kick out of hammering a defenseless child to death  Link

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It is expected to show they (the banks) have ample capital to weather any fresh turmoil in the banking sector

Are the bank's assets, such as bond holdings and commercial real estate, valued at current yields or the ultra low yields of 2+ years ago?  I believe if valued at today's higher yields, most US banks are insolvent (collateral lower than liabilities).  

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A $120 bn bond portfolio with a 5.6y duration means that every 10 bps move higher in 5-year rate lost the bank almost $700 million. 200 bps? $14 billion economic loss. Basically the entire bank’s capital wiped out.  Link

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Of course, the Fed doesn’t mark to market, nor have banks done so since the early-2009 market low, when the Financial Accounting Standards Board relaxed FAS Rule 157 (which is actually what ended the global financial crisis – by making bank insolvency opaque). Link -Hussman

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Just a question given some of the polls recently.

If Labour get 38%,Nats 36%,ACT 18%...do National do the right thing and walk away and let Labour form a Government with what ever they can cobble together? That was the main arguement after 2017...whoever got the highest percentage had the mandate to govern according to Nat supporters at the time..

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Not going to happen its easily National/ACT come October. Said it months ago the PAIN is going to really start to kick in now, we are at the 32km mark of a Full Marathon.

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That wasn't my question...

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Not looking likely, seemingly too arrogant to bother with costed policy and have an un- electable plodder as a leader that will be lucky to make the election date.

National is the party for the old or the over extended .

 

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Unfortunately it's looking more and more likely that politicians will win the election.

We're at 32km and about to bonk on decades of debt obligations, and we want more fuel on the fire?

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So National will govern even if they lose the election? Scoundrels. 

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Hahaha. It's good to point out the hypocrisy but there is nothing wrong with not having the most party votes and still leading the country in the system we have. In some ways it will make them a little more humble and require them to compromise a little more with their coalition partners. 

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Classic!

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Talked again this morning to an Auckland Council planner, resource consent application numbers even more miserable than they were several weeks ago. Now less than half of what they were in the always quiet January period, and way more than 50% less than same time last year.

Resource consent applications are a key lead indicator of the development sector. On the basis of these numbers, it looks like a profound slump is on its way.

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As predicted really so this means there is only one way house prices are going in 2024 and that's up.

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I don’t think it’s that clear cut, but it certainly will be a factor going forward, from 2024 onwards ( and probably more so in 2025)

 

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Cause or effect? Will low consent numbers cause a shortage, or are low consent numbers the effect of a glut? 

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Low consent numbers are certainly not the result of a glut.

They are a result of demand drying up and development feasibility being dead in the water.

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Are you sure? There seem to be a lot of new houses out there (in Auckland at least). 

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Low consent numbers are certainly not the result of a glut.

They are a result of demand drying up and development feasibility being dead in the water.

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Zwifter- is house prices going up positive or negative for the country? Honest question..

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Honest answer is that what one person sees as positive, another sees as negative it just depends where you are on the property ladder. If you failed to find the first rung then its always going to be negative.

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Logically, anyone with a vague interest in societal wellbeing and owning 1 or 0 houses should prefer cheaper house prices. The small minority who own > 1 house are unfortunately strongly over-represented in the media and politics (and on the comment section here, but that has rather less impact). 

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"Is house prices going up positive or negative for the country?" - not for from a personal perspective but for the country as a whole. I too would like to know peoples thoughts on this as i can't see any benefit to NZ as a whole prices going any higher for a long long time.

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Would be good if Interest did an article on resource consent application numbers, given that they lead building consents.

I don’t think the numbers are published but they could be requested via a Local Government Official Information Act request.

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