Up to 165,000 migrant workers could be granted NZ residency under a scheme set up by the Government in September last year

The lazy sods. They'll want roofs over their heads next. The cheek of it all. 

In the UK the inter-generational affect of hundreds of thousands of families and whole neighbourhoods where no one has ever had a job are marked.  Education is not valued, discipline is unnecessary and the values are much more in-line with their community that their country.

Take a trip through the suburbs of Portsmouth (a lovely south England town) to see the effect of immigration.

Replacements for the kiwis they wont let back home.  Priorities?

Immigrants do not suppress wages. This is a crackpot economic theory that Trump tried to deploy. Doesn’t show up in the numbers.

This is combined with the fact that lot of foreign workers do overtime and work Saturdays with NO extra pay and don't complain about the bullying, abuse and illegal employment activities in the office. Basically, they're taking the low wage and working more hours than necessary (even unrostered) and just management turns a blind eye because it helps boost their profitability and it's not like they're going to stop their staff volunteering their weekends to help boost the company's bottom line. I don't blame them.

They do this because many are from the South Asia continent and have to send money home to support their parents and families who have lost their jobs/ businesses/ livelihoods due to lockdowns in India, Sri Lanka, Bang, Thailand, and Phillipines. Also, they're in a situation of "Do or die" in NZ because if they don't have money, they'll easily be on the street within a couple of weeks when they exhaust their savings whilst carrying their familial obligations on their backs. Many keep their mouth shut and head low and working harder and harder as a game of survival of the fittest.

As a highly educated foreign Western expat, I can see it from their perspective however, they're undermining my livelihood particularly those doing the extra hours because I know that during the downturn, I will made redundant first so I'll just leave the country at that point in time. For kiwis with mortgages, this have a wider impact on them because us (Westerners) are unwilling to throw in those bonus hours and go the extra mile for the company unless your cronies have got your back.

Well yea, but then that also means exposing the issue of a 'skills shortage' within the professional roles as well, so no, we won't be talking about that. 

 You look at the numbers and a huge proportion of the jobs are Kitchen hands, cleaning staff, retail workers.

It appears you're more informed than everyone else. Can you show us which number are you referring to?

Please support your wild claims with some real data as the information I could find does not back your claims:

From 7 October 2019, the following changes to the Talent (Accredited Employer) Work visa Category will come into effect:

• An annual salary threshold increase from NZ$55,000 to NZ$79,560 based on a 40-hour week;
• Removal of the benefit to apply for a Permanent Resident Visa (PRV) where salary is NZ$90,000 or higher;
• Employers limited to being accredited for 24 months only. 

The new salary threshold is 150% of the current median salary in New Zealand and will be updated each year in line with the median income.

https://www.ey.com/en_gl/tax-alerts/hc-alert--new-zealand-announces-sig…

It is a permanent resident visa. I think one requirement is the applicant must have a valid work visa in the past 36 months.

Hi Nigelh. I didn't include much detail on the new visa in the article because that is old news. It was well covered in all major media when the scheme was announced in September. What is new is the number of people who have applied for it since applications opened at the beginning of December. Cheers.

The complaints relate to roles just like these ones, ones that can be held be people already here.  The globalisation of our pay scales with the localisation of our increased services and infrastructure costs is the failure of the immigration policy.

In my opinion we should be making businesses hire and train people in the skills shortage areas they require(eg apprenticeships just like in the trades) until we get to 0 unemployment, then we can start importing workers.

PS Yay to that business analyst leaving for a better return if you're unwilling to match or better their wage and conditions elsewhere. Did you then go on to advertise for workers locally or jump straight to India to import another worker? I wonder how many unemployed business analysts or people who could be upskilled into the role there are in New Zealand, have you looked into this? 

The new visa is for people who were already living and working in NZ so it won't have any effect on population numbers, just the visa holders' status.

NZ is not too bad ;) You don't have to learn to speak German or have about 2 months of sunshine a year (and Canada's NOT cheap). If you are from developing countries, NZ's may be the next best thing to Aussie. I expect NZ to follow their suit to ease immigration rules. 

Germany let in 1,000,000 "migrants" in over the last 5 years. Lets say only 160,000 are in the workforce. That really means over the last 5 odd years Germany needed/needs 300,000+160,000. if we average that over say 7 years that's about 65,000 a year for a population of 80m? Before covids NZ had been letting in say 40,000 a year in the previous 5 years for a population of 4.5-5m. Only difference I can think of is Germany does not have the exodus requiring replacements that NZ has.

Some where along the line there is need for a massive overhaul of the immigration system and in the interim there needs to be a long mark time.

Only let in after those who have left. Unfortunately the drawback to this is that replacements are probably required within six months of the departed and this is likely unachievable.

Tens of thousands?  That is a massive underestimate in my opinion, benefits, infrastructure, health, policing, education, roading, electricity etc... If it weren't more like $100,000+ for each immigrant (including elderly immigrants who will never, ever return productively to the country) I would be surprised.

Indeed, it is of course far to much to expect any analysis from our government but this has been a clear behaviour for some time.

I agree. Probably the only card left for Jacinda to play to fight inflation AND save the property market from collapsing - open up immigration once more. Even hinting around immigration may keep the market afloat with anticipation for a while.    

Investors in productive business, not asset speculators. We need to reward hard productive work not sitting around on our ass-ets.