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Gernot Wagner offers lessons for navigating the climate-tech field, one that is fraught with hype, unintended consequences, and other pitfalls

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Gernot Wagner offers lessons for navigating the climate-tech field, one that is fraught with hype, unintended consequences, and other pitfalls
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Everything from seat belts and condoms to health care and bank bailouts invites riskier behavior, or what economists call “moral hazard.” Even the most justified and well-meaning policy interventions can have unintended – and undesired – consequences. In the 1960s and 1970s, many environmentalists objected to nuclear power because its promise of cheap, limitless energy ran counter to their own push for energy efficiency and conservation.

The debate continues today. Which climate technologies deserve our support, and which are distractions that could lull us into complacency with the false promise of a silver bullet? The list of climate “solutions” is constantly expanding and now includes everything from futuristic fusion technologies to green hydrogen, from heat pumps to induction stoves to better insulation, and – of course – solar and wind.

The media love to fawn over greentech “unicorns” (startups with valuations above $1 billion) that promise to provide the breakthrough innovation we have all been waiting for. But while innovation is certainly essential, not all technologies are created equal, and lists of what counts as “climate tech” often become political litmus tests. Many, for example, now look beyond solar to newer, sexier technologies. Yet the plummeting cost of solar energy is a result of technological breakthroughs and research and development subsidies, and the fact that it is becoming an established climate technology does not make it any less essential.

Of course, solar is not the whole solution. We cannot talk about solar without also talking about its land-use and grid implications, nor can we talk about green hydrogen without addressing the potential consequences of hydrogen leakage, a problem that has quickly turned natural gas from a promising “bridge” technology into a cause of major environmental problems. It is right to cheer the rapidly growing electric-vehicle (EV) market, but it is similarly important to consider the vast potential not only of transportation alternatives like e-bikes (or old-fashioned bicycles) but also of better cities.

Many of these debates are simply moot. It is not EVs or e-bikes; it is both. Climate beggars can’t be choosers. But debates about tradeoffs are crucial, and reveal quite a bit about our priors, priorities, and worldviews. Why zero in on the folly of Germany’s nuclear phase-out ten years ahead of its planned exit from coal, but not on German building codes, which should be a model for the rest of the world? Germany’s “well-sealed windows” do not make headlines, but investments in this admittedly boring climate technology could ultimately do more for cutting greenhouse-gas (GHG) emissions than some of the most enthusiastically hyped innovations.

What really matters is the interplay between technology, policy, and behavioral change. While induction stoves alone will not make a big dent in global or personal GHG emissions, swapping one’s old gas range for a new induction stove is often the last step before shutting off one’s home gas line altogether. Induction stoves and heat pumps are the two main climate technologies that have allowed new buildings to go without gas altogether. And since everyone needs to eat and regulate the temperature in one’s home, neither technology creates much moral hazard.

Now consider carbon-removal technologies. They, too, have a crucial role to play in bringing about a low-carbon future, and yet they also hold the promise – justified or not – of allowing us to keep chugging along without changing our production and consumption patterns.

What to preserve is a political question. While some will welcome EVs as a way to decarbonise their suburban commutes, others will see a new moral hazard. After all, the more efficient cars become, the more guilt-free driving we can do. But rather than preserve long commutes, why not use zoning changes to create more walkable neighborhoods? Rather than always surveying the cutting edge, we can find some of the most powerful technofixes already at work in the real world. Just look at the traditional European city. As Andrej Karpathy, the former head of artificial intelligence at Tesla, marvels, it is “more compact, denser … [more] pedestrian/bike friendly.”

A final consideration is how some climate technologies may introduce the exact opposite of moral hazard. Solar geoengineering, for example, might be considered to be so radical and controversial that the mere mention of it could motivate us to cut more carbon pollution sooner. But, of course, we must not bank on this effect. That, ironically, would be another case of falling into the moral-hazard trap.

How, then, to assess whether any given climate technology will deliver as promised? While there is no foolproof method, much can be learned from looking at the degree of decarbonisation that has already been achieved. By and large, there are dozens of ways to cut emissions by 5%, 10%, or even 20% in each industry or economic sector. Most of these involve small process changes aimed at teasing out additional efficiencies. A more efficient gas furnace, for example, will reduce your fuel bill and emissions by 10% or 20% overnight, and much the same can be said for a more efficient turbine at the gas plant.

But making existing fossil fuel-based processes more efficient can go only so far. Moving well beyond the 20% cuts to 80-90% or more typically means switching from fossil fuels to zero-carbon energy sources. In most sectors, there are really only one or two ways to cut emissions by that much. In the construction sector, for example, large cuts require installing insulation and heat pumps. In steel, the two options involve green hydrogen or full-on electrification, with a closed-loop carbon-recycling system emerging as a strong contender for a third path.

The key question when considering climate moral hazard, then, is whether a technology moves a company, industry, or sector closer to implementing an 80-100% solution, as opposed to a 10% or 20% measure that merely kicks the can down the road. Your new EV will not cut your transportation emissions to zero by itself – not until we have also decarbonised the steel used to make it, and the electricity that powers it. But it at least holds the potential to be an 80-100% solution.

It is moral hazard to think that technology will save us. However, it is equally hazardous to ignore innovations that could be game changers if they are accompanied by the right kinds of policies, investments, and political commitments. Whether a climate solution creates a moral hazard has little to do with the solution itself, and everything to do with us.


Gernot Wagner, a climate economist at Columbia Business School, is the author, most recently, of Geoengineering: The Gamble (Polity, 2021). Copyright: Project Syndicate, 2023, and published here with permission.

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I loathe to link to the Guardian, but Rowan Atkinson wrote what I thought was a brilliant piece on EVs there recently:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/03/electric-vehicles…

In short, we pretend that the problem of vehicle emissions starts and ends at the exhaust pipe, because we want to believe that the solution is as simple and convenient - even enticing - as upgrading to the latest luxury car. That way, when absolutely nothing changes as a result, at least we can confidently lay the blame at someone else's feet, because after all, we did our bit.

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Rowan Atkinson also did a piece on free speech which is equally relevant for us all given the current msm approach to disable all comments entirely or heavily censor.

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You do realise free speech doesn't mean they have to give you a platform.  You are free to drag out your own soapbox to spout your dribble from. 

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Yes, under lefty logic you don't have to give people you don't like a platform - but you do have to bake them a cake.

 

 

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Perhaps they think there is a difference between disliking someone because they are offensive and insulting, versus disliking them because of their sexuality. 

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Yes, it is always amazing how efficient these platforms are at rinsing people they don't like/political rivals but completely hopeless at removing pedophile content. Perhaps the “disinformation” industry could do something useful for a change.

“Instagram, the popular social-media site owned by Meta Platforms, helps connect and promote a vast network of accounts openly devoted to the commission and purchase of underage-sex content, according to investigations by The Wall Street Journal and researchers at Stanford University and the University of Massachusetts Amherst.

Pedophiles have long used the internet, but unlike the forums and file-transfer services that cater to people who have interest in illicit content, Instagram doesn’t merely host these activities. Its algorithms promote them. Instagram connects pedophiles and guides them to content sellers via recommendation systems that excel at linking those who share niche interests, the Journal and the academic researchers found.

…Following the company’s initial sweep of accounts brought to its attention by Stanford and the Journal, UMass’s Levine checked in on some of the remaining underage seller accounts on Instagram. As before, viewing even one of them led Instagram to recommend new ones. Instagram’s suggestions were helping to rebuild the network that the platform’s own safety staff was in the middle of trying to dismantle.

“Pull the emergency brake,” he said. “Are the economic benefits worth the harms to these children?””

https://www.wsj.com/articles/instagram-vast-pedophile-network-4ab7189

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I loathe to link to Stuff, but here's a rebuttal to the Guardians latest anti-EV rant

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/300898984/what-mr-bean-gets-wrong-abou…

 

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Interesting how the article which happens to fit your narrative is a "rebuttal", while the one which doesn't is a "rant". Anyway, I'm not sure how seriously I can take an article written by someone who insists on calling Rowan Atkinson "Mr. Bean" in an apparent attempt to discredit him. Seems a bit desperate, really. Why not "Blackadder"?

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Blackadder never drove a car. Mr Bean frequently did.

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"Mr. Bean" also works much more effectively as an ad hominem attack.

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There are rebuttal's all over the place:  https://thedriven.io/2023/06/05/debunking-mr-beans-electric-tropes-evs-…

 

It's worth noting that the original Guardian article was littered with errors (the one that immediately caught my eye was the claim that rare earths are in batteries  - they aren't). Interesting to note that Atkinson has been scrabbling ever since to try and 'patch' some of the many errors.........(see Guardian addendum below)

 

 

''This article was amended on 5 June 2023 to describe lithium-ion batteries as lasting “upwards of 10 years”, rather than “about 10 years”; and to clarify that the figures released by Volvo claimed that greenhouse gas emissions during production of an electric car are “nearly 70% higher”, not “70% higher”. It was further amended on 7 June 2023 to remove an incorrect reference to the production of lithium-ion batteries needing “many rare earth metals”; to clarify that a reference to “trucks” should instead have been to “heavy trucks for long distance haulage”; and to more accurately refer to the use of such batteries in these trucks as being a “concern”, due to weight issues, rather than a “non-starter”.

 

Tesla already have a truck on the market - PepsiCo were the first buyers - with a range of hundreds of miles (which he surely should have known?  - hence the rapid retreat to 'long distance')

 

 

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Even the ultimate petrol heads (the Top Gear knobs) were recently won over by the first Scania EV truck:

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/scania/bev-hgv/first-drive

By the way Tesla Semi can do 400 miles on a charge with ease (Tesla claim 500 miles)

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Even the Guardian had to retract the article, it was such a load of old cobblers

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jun/08/fact-check-why-rowa…

 

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Except the article hasn't been retracted, has it? What you've linked to there is someone whose opinion differs from that of Mr. Atkinson, not a retraction.

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I think youre missing the point.

On EVs, the handles retract into the car. It's like, the future, and not the same lump of metal and plastic with a different propulsion system.

Oh, and there's a big screen, that you have to look at to turn your music or temperature up or down, instead of silly tactile knobs you can use just by touch. Amazing.

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I cannot take anything written by Stuff seriously, they spout mainly time-wasting clickbait opinion pieces with poor grammar and may as well be called IReckon'.co.nz

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No-one pretends that,   its just that time and time again its been studied, and the lifetime emissions of an EV are lower than an ICE after a few tens of thousands of kms.  (or max 150,000kms if we assume 100% coal fired electricity generation).

And the repititive don't get an EV, just keep your old car argument is fine, but it falls to bits when your old car falls to bits as they all do eventually.

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Can the author tell us how these Solar Panels and other Renewable Energy technologies as well as EV’s will be manufactured and recycled both now and in the future when these panels, turbines and EV’s need replacing?  How will they also be shipped and trucked to final destinations?

Solar Panels provide electricity but they don't provide the energy required to 'move' industry.

'What to preserve is a political question'.... Using any form of bike/scooter/car, pedal powered, ICE or EV ultimately requires steel, carbon fibre or aluminium which = fossil fuels.   

If all this improving Ev and Scooter technology totally removes the world's global demand for petroleum because, hey, no more ICE, then other mining industries will grow exponentially.  Additionally, what will refineries do with the enormous quantities of petroleum that is therefore refined but not suppoedly required?  It will simply be used for other technologies while the same refineries will still produce their jet fuel, diesel and other lubricants required for the 'renewable' industry and the mineral extraction industry.

So Net Zero is just not going to happen, not in the western world nor any world that we're a part of.  If the Irish and others still use peat bogs for energy after all these hundreds of years, well, we will still use oil.   

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 Additionally, what will refineries do with the enormous quantities of petroleum that is therefore refined but not suppoedly required?  

err, i would suggest that once there is no demand for it, they will stop making it.  You do realise that the refineries do have quite a lot of control over what comes out the end of the refinery, they alter flows, temperatures and pressures to produce the most profitable products.

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Refineries may reduce the volume of petrol being refined but they won't stop making it specifically.  There will always be a demand for petrol specifically won't there?  They will also still refine crude oil into other end products.   While western nations may feel obliged to phase out ICE vehicles, Developing nations, and other industries will demand gasoline for their older vehicles and other machinery.  Oil will also be turned into more plastic products, solvents and packaging.  Even used in the manufacture of renewable energy products.

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It's a finite resource. Sigh.

Which means the word 'always' is invalid.

The Saudis are husbanding Ghawar well (intended) but they're dropping by 1mbpd - long foretold (Twilight in the Desert, Simmons). Ghawar peaked in 1980, and is now 60+ years old.

http://theoildrum.com/node/3954

Some of us have been tracking global oil depletion for some time....

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Sorry PDK, possibly semantics but just because a product/resource (OIL) is finite does not invalidate the word 'always' in regards to petrol while that resource is currently extractable.  I'm convinced that whilst oil is extractable there will always be a demand for petroleum or lighter hydrocarbons from someone somewhere.  If you had actually cared to read what I had said and what Pragmatist had replied in the context of the article you would hopefully have understood the line of thought .  

Whilst humanity continues to extract oil specifically for heavy hydrocarbons required for transportation, manufacturing, roads, infrastructure and processing there will always be demand for lighter hydrocarbons.  To focus on EV's, scooters and renewable energies and continually preaching the drop in demand for petrol is some form of saving grace is just smoke and mirrors / hopium.  This is all just more consumerism - 'buy a new and efficient car'. 

Instead you just jump straight to responding with 'sighs' and are incredibly condescending!  Everyone here knows you're a very intelligent person with strong opinions and everyone also knows you've been tracking global oil depletion for some time.... 

Take care out there.

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As mentioned above, developing nations need energy to improve their standard of living and the cheapest resource for them to do so is via crude oil distillates. No developing country will deny this resource when it can pull them out of poverty

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I've been wondering about gas stations recently.

With so many EVs and hybrids on the roads now that must be having an impact on the volumes of petrol being sold (assuming Jevon's paradox isn't at play). Our hybrid uses 50% less fuel than our old full ICE one.

At what point will gas stations start disappearing? 

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I guess an interesting dataset would be gas station revenue vs EV/Hybrid uptake.

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All i can find is this

https://figure.nz/chart/8sVSQRFBRCrUj5K2-xwPKZludQn4lzeeu

This one is actual volumes 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1249939/new-zealand-regular-and-premium-petrol-consumption/

When you factor in population increase during that time...

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Probably why most of their ads are about coffee. They will morp to service centres. And increase their margins on fuel.

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I don't confess to know the shelf life on an underground tank and associated bowsers but Waitomo and Gull have been reasonably aggressive in the last few years putting in unmanned stations in our wider region.  I would think some service stations will pivot firstly to unmanned stations while others coming to the end of their certified compliant life will disappear.

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They are already installing EV fast chargers in BP and Z sites.  The number of sites will continue to decrease as it has been for decades.  Many of the petrol stations that were around when I was a young fella are now gone, the trend has been to fewer but larger sites for quite a while.  Gotta make room for the food and beverages where they make their real money.

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Pv should last 40 years, the failure rate is very low. A recycling plant is been built in Europe.

Of course such things should be taken into consideration, as soon as we start questioning the disposal of all other products.

More of a concern for the alt energy industry at the moment, is that they are not taking AGM, or large format deep cycle batteries for recycling. The ports are full of them, and it's hard to get the actual reason why.

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The reason is because it's not economical1 to recycle them. Same reason our "recycling" ends up in landfills in Malaysia, instead of getting made into new bottles.

1: "Economical" in this context means "able to make a killing off". The batteries are likely sitting around waiting for some government subsidy to be brought in, which would give the government another greenwashing PR opportunity, and also provides a way to move public funds into private pockets, which is really the whole reason for doing anything these days. Note how little any of this actually has to do with the environment.

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They used to be recycled, and they paid up to $1 a kilo for them. Suddenly that stopped, now if your lucky, they will take them for free, but the person buying them is betting the price will go up, and they are been stockpiled here in NZ.

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Perhaps the answer is not recycling as such, but rather "upcycling". You just have to think outside the box. Old lead acid batteries make a fantastic boat anchor, for example.

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I already have plans to use them as a weight for an inertia power storage system , but that's a long term project . At least NZ has plenty of hills. 

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Seems to me what you'd want in that case is a really long, shallow slope, and one very heavy weight. Rather than a short steep slope, and a bunch of lighter weights.

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Either / or,ideally both . 

Short and fast for assisting with peak loads, long and slow for longer term storage. Devil is in the control. 

Its more efficient than pumped storage. NZ has some disused(and underused) railways where it could be applied.  

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I would've thought the two would be equivalent, i.e. a long, slow, heavy load would produce the same amount of energy, at the same rate, as a short, fast, light load. Obviously the generator gearing would have to differ, but it would presumably be less complex to deal with a single heavy load than a bunch of smaller ones.

Very interesting concept though.

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Todays control systems (PWM,MPPT) mean any load can be made fast or slow , they just control the amount of current been drawn. Basically regenerative braking , down to almost zero km/h. Which just made me think , an old Prius(or similar) would make an ideal generator/ power supply in conjunction with a inertia system for rural areas.   

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Yeah but a light load would have to fall much faster than a heavy one to produce the same amount of power. I know the old Gentle Annies are sought after these days because they happen to make very good generators. I wonder if that's to be the ultimate fate of our EV fleet too.

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Yup , Gentle Annie motors are handy , because they can be wired to generate at almost any speed.

A considerable number are exported as hydroturbines and pumps. 

WWW.powerspout.com 

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"Both processes produce extensive waste and emit greenhouse gases, studies have found. And the business model can be shaky: Most operations depend on selling recovered cobalt to stay in business, but batterymakers are trying to shift away from that relatively expensive metal. If that happens, recyclers could be left trying to sell piles of "dirt," says materials scientist Rebecca Ciez of Purdue University."

https://www.science.org/content/article/millions-electric-cars-are-comi…

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whereas ICE vehicles and old coal power stations just biologically dissolve into piles of environmentally friendly dust at the end of their life. 

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Everybody wants their veges grown on the site of an old oil refinery, such clean healthy soil...

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You are not really that clueless how dirty a process silicon metal smelting is? No oil refinery no wind mill or EV. 

Any gardens growing on an ex lithium evaporation pond?

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It's very easy to recycle your ICE car. But I think you know that. Old coal power stations are great places to put SMR's or turn them in to manatee sanctuarys. Everyone knows only wind mills and PV cells biologically dissolve into piles of environmentally friendly dust.

https://floridaspringsinstitute.org/nobody-knows-how-to-wean-manatees-o…

 

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D.P,

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I do love an article that tells me "how to think".

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