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HSBC stops accepting new New Zealand retail banking customers, tells existing customers to 'start engaging with other financial services providers'

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HSBC stops accepting new New Zealand retail banking customers, tells existing customers to 'start engaging with other financial services providers'
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HSBC says it'll wind-down its New Zealand wealth and personal banking business over several years, and is stopping accepting new NZ retail customers with immediate effect.

The bank says the decision follows a strategic review and reflects the rapidly evolving commercial, regulatory and technology environment for running a sustainable retail banking business.

HSBC says it'll continue operating and growing its NZ wholesale banking business, which includes commercial banking and financial institutions and government business, plus markets and securities services business.

"Over the course of the planned exit, HSBC will continue to support its wealth and personal banking customers to ensure a smooth transition to other service providers. However, the Bank will stop accepting any new retail customers in New Zealand, with immediate effect," HSBC says.

HSBC has been operating in NZ for more than 35 years. As of December 31, 2022, HSBC NZ had residential mortgages of $1.6 billion, with total gross lending at $4.7 billion. Customer deposits stood at $4.8 billion. The bank's 2022 profit after tax was $46.92 million.

Late last year HSBC said it was reviewing its NZ retail banking operations with a sale one of a number of options under consideration.

'Start engaging with other financial services providers'

In an email to customers on Tuesday afternoon Martine Milicich, HSBC NZ's Country Head of Wealth and Personal Banking, says it has become clear that HSBC can no longer justify investing into its NZ business given the changing operating requirements in the market and scalability of the business.

"We have therefore made the decision to wind-down our wealth and personal banking business, which will happen over several years in a phased manner. Please rest assured that we remain committed to supporting you throughout the entire wind-down process. We will continue to honour our obligations to all customers under any existing agreement, or to those who have received formal Letters of Offer, as well as pre-approval letters issued prior to the date of this letter," Milicich says.

HSBC is no longer accepting new applications for home loans including top-ups of existing loans, term deposit applications, account opening applications, and debit Mastercard applications.

"The most important thing you need to do is to start engaging with other financial services providers to understand your alternative options. More specifically:

"If you have a fixed-rate home loan, we will move the loan onto our variable rate upon fixed-rate maturity until you refinance elsewhere. However, we understand that switching providers can take time, so if your fixed rate matures before 13 September 2023, we will offer you a one-off option to refix for a further six-month term."

"If you have a term deposit; - on a term of three months or less and it is set to auto-roll, we will continue to auto-roll this until 13 September 2023. After this date, on maturity, we will credit the funds to your nominated account. - on a term longer than three months and it is set to auto-roll, we will change the maturity instructions and will credit the funds to your nominated account on maturity. - up until 13 September 2023, we will have terms of one to three months available should you wish to reinvest."

"If you have current, savings or foreign currency account(s), we encourage you find another financial services provider and close your account(s) as soon as possible," says Milicich.

"As you will not be able to access online statements once your account is closed, we recommend you download them now and continue to do so over the coming months. Our Auckland branch and Wellington office will remain open and our arrangement with Westpac branches nationwide will continue to support you with over-the-counter services."

RBNZ proposing major change

Last August interest.co.nz reported that HSBC, the first overseas bank to gain a banking licence in NZ, could be a high profile casualty of the Reserve Bank's proposals to make banks operating in NZ as branches of overseas banks quit retail banking.

The Reserve Bank's proposed changes could see HSBC having to either incorporate in NZ or quit retail banking. In a submission to the Reserve Bank HSBC said it supported the current policy and acknowledged it; "may need to substantially change strategy in response to such a significant change in the regulatory environment."

An HSBC NZ spokesman told interest.co.nz the decision to exit NZ retail banking wasn't prompted by the Reserve Bank's proposed changes. The review explored a variety of options and the ultimate decision wasn't just about NZ with the HSBC Group having been reviewing various businesses around the world, the spokesman says.

"HSBC will honour all its obligations to existing customers and continue supporting them to ensure a smooth transition."

Quoting HSBC's Chief Financial Officer Georges Elhedery in May, Reuters reported that HSBC was reviewing a potential exit from up to a dozen countries, or one in five of the markets it operated in, to improve focus on Asian expansion. The reviews follow pressure from Chinese shareholder Ping An Insurance, which wants HSBC to prioritise growth in Asia.

Meanwhile a Reserve Bank spokesman said: "HSBC have informed us of their decision. We note that this is ultimately a commercial decision and we have no comment on its perceived merits or otherwise."

Overseas bank branch

HSBC established a branch in NZ in 1987 becoming the first overseas bank branch to be registered here. HSBC operates in NZ as a branch of the Hong Kong-based Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Ltd, with its ultimate non-bank holding company being HSBC Holdings PLC of the United Kingdom.

Overseas banks wanting to operate as a NZ bank can apply to the Reserve Bank to register as either a locally-incorporated subsidiary, or as a branch of the overseas bank. Albeit in some cases an overseas bank is allowed to register both a subsidiary and a branch, which is referred to as dual registration.

As the Reserve Bank puts it, the key difference between a locally-incorporated subsidiary and a branch is that the branch is part of a legal entity incorporated overseas. The branch operates its banking business in NZ, which is the host jurisdiction, but the legal entity of which it is part is incorporated in another country, which is its home jurisdiction.

"As a result, branches cannot be made subject to many of the requirements we impose on banks incorporated in New Zealand. We rely on a branch’s compliance with regulation and supervision in its home jurisdiction," the Reserve Bank says.

The Reserve Bank is reviewing its policy for branches of overseas banks, proposing that all branches of overseas banks operating in NZ be restricted to wholesale business with corporates, institutions and other wholesale investors, meaning they couldn't take retail deposits or offer products or services to retail customers.

Final policy decisions will be published in the second half of 2023, the Reserve Bank says.

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Interesting. HSBC has a reputation for being a funnel for filthy lucre. Not saying this closure of NZ operations is related.  

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I was thinking of the same thing

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I was thinking of the same thing

Conspiracy theorists 

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oh well, everyone has a reputation, and banks are the same. 

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No rich people want to move to NZ any more. And that was before the Greens launched their wealth tax proposal.  Even the IRD "survey" was probably a huge bat signal to the wealthy to stay the heck away.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/477687/new-millionaire-migrants-vis…

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No rich people want to move to NZ any more. And that was before the Greens launched their wealth tax proposal.  Even the IRD "survey" was probably a huge bat signal to the wealthy to stay the heck away.

Level headed thinking 

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Wealthy people may still move here but it just wont be their tax domicile if the Wealth taxes become a thing. NZ is actually still quite attractive to the asset rich.

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I think you are right re: ultra wealthy not moving to nz naymore. 

However I still consider the Green Party and their policies solves less problems than problems they create. They remind of some young roosters in chicken farms, eat all meals, produce no eggs, noise all the time and shit everywhere. 

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I had difficulty over the last 5 weeks attempting to open a Global multicurrency account with HSBC Australia, a process I was originally informed would take no more than 5 days. The main problem seems to be the banks current mixed responsibilities process regime via India/Australia/NZ resulting in repeated communication & document errors. I had to personally attend their NZ  office 3x over that period revalidating my application & identity documents.

I was able to apply, authorise & credit a WISE multicurrency account & receive a virtual Visa debit card in 15 minutes entirely online with no problems at all.

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I have had similar experience. NZ clearly not worth the hassle for them. 

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More market consolidation in retail banking.

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about time it moved to a duopoly like the rest of our vital consumer services. /s

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This is not good news.  Less competition for the other main banks, as generally HSBC offered the lowest home loan rates.

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All the regulation piled on the industry and constant rhetoric about excessive profits has led to this. Consumers will be worse off with a less competitive market. Maybe the industry was telling the truth when they told the RBNZ the increased capital requirements were too much? Certainly having to comply with AML, LVRs, DTIs, the new financial advice regime, open banking etc. etc. is a lot for a global bank operating in a small market

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I'd suggest the major banks have all the expertise overseas and central/reserve banks are always imposing regulations on banks. NZ is no  different. As for capital reqirments they must increase in NZ. The banks will squeal at any regulation.

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"HSBC is no longer accepting new applications for home loans including top-ups of existing loans"

Maybe they can see the writing on the wall? Maybe they look ahead and think the housing market is going to crash big time and take down people's wealth with it.  The rats are fleeing the housing market ship?

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There have been plenty of ups and downs since they set up shop in the 1980s. 

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if so wouldn't they sell up rather than wind down?

I don’t get why they don’t sell, surely one of the smaller players would be very keen to increase their market share, and HSBC could have a nice easy exit. Winding down seems like a crazy option, they basically lose the entire value of the business. 

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Maybe the business is not worth anything. What is the value of their business backed with? 

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The value of their customers must be worth something. Banks spend crazy amounts on advertising and invectives to attract new customers. Even if only half of them stayed with the buyer it’s worth a lot. I wonder how many National Bank customers are still with ANZ. 

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If they can see that they have extracted as much as they can already from those customers, going forward there will not be much more to take? Maybe a banker on here can comment on reason why they might be pulling out? 

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What the article doesn't quite get to, is the downstream implications of having to locally incorporate. 

The branch requirements mean HSBC can't serve retail customers as a branch of the overseas bank, they must locally incorporate. 

This means that they must then comply with the RBNZs other regulations for locally incorporated banks. One example being BS11 - Outsourcing policy that requires locally incorporated banks to be able to operate independently from their parent (so have own systems, support functions etc).

So the 'commercial' decision they have made here will have factored in the cost of standing up all the technology and support functions they currently rely on HSBC group for, locally in NZ. For a relatively small book, it's just not worth it.

 

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Yep cauterising the mortgagee/negative equity pains and wounds in NZ......before this current crash really picks up the pace, as it will into later 2023, 2024, 2025,2026......until a distant bottom is struck.  AKA yields of 10% plus and DTIs of 4.
 

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Wind down? Wouldn't you sell? What is wrong with them?

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They probably wouldnt even get book for their assets so they'll just run it down. Without systems and a brand it's not that attractive, but I tend to agree 90c in the $ would be a good acquisition for someone. I reckon big 4 head office have zero appetite for more NZ$ exposure. 

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Quite likely they have already securitised their mortgage book and there is nothing to sell.  Its now about getting customer's cash out of the deposit accounts, and I'm sure a lot of that will probably be finding its way overseas anyway since Labour and the Greens started mouthing off about wealth taxes.  NZ will probably end up being the only OECD country that people launder money from instead of to. 

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It would be interesting to see how this works for mortgage holders.

 

If you have a layered mortgage (some for 1 year, some 2 year etc) what happens when your one year expires?

 

It's not portable to other banks by itself, so options for consumer may be

- Break whole mortgage and go elsewhere 

- Co-term the amount with parts expiring later.

 

First option will see consumer exposed to higher interest costs as rates have gone up.

Second option removes the layering hedge.

 

Both bad results. Hopefully something better is done, otherwise this is a potential risk for going with other overseas domiciled banks...

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I would expect to see HSBC contribute towards the costs of customers moving banks - solicitors fees and the likes that will be forced upon them.

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They can sell the loan book. Happened a lot during GFC especially sub prime books. Take a look at northern rock et al

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What if a borrower is unable to refinance to another bank because the CCCFA and other issues mean they have to reduce debt for a period before they can move anywhere? 

A lot of folks could get stuck on a floating mortgage, no? 

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That was my thought too.  There could be a whole lot of floating rate mortgages (at higher rate than fixed rates likely to be in the next year) because HSBC customers unable to pass current new lending rules (either CCCFA or the now higher test rates) at another bank.  Even if they can move banks, they may go have to go onto low equity rates based on current valuation whereas this usually isn't looked at when rolling over one fixed mortgage to another with the same bank.  This could be very costly for some HSBC home loan customers.

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Insane.

We have an oligopoly with 4 main banks holding 85% of the market and now we have 1 less.

No wonder no one else can get a toehold in the market.

We need 6 to 7 banks with equal market share to have perfect competition.

Our politicians are gutless.

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I'm sure if the Labour party get in again, they will set up a Working Committee to look at competition in banking.  They might even release an app that allows you to compare bank prices, "bank watch" anyone?  That'll fix it!

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I am waiting for the RBNZ decision on overseas branches with regard to Rabobank.Will be interesting.

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HSBC being pro-active/prescient in the UK, too. 

https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/money/property-and-mortgages/hsbc-r…

 

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China is proceeding to withdraw from foreign involvement 

Note falling exports to dev countries

Also see this from Guardian today. China in trouble

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/12/gold-bars-used-to-lure-ch…

 

 

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https://www.reuters.com/markets/hsbc-eyes-sale-new-zealand-retail-busin…

Seems like they tried to sell at the end of 2022. No luck then... They seem to be getting out of many markets? 

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Correct, they just sold their Canadian business last year.
Not a surprise really, the NZ business is extremely small in the grand scheme of things so easiest to just wind it down. 

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Did they smell bad debt?

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Our household income is above 200K+ with a tax bill of 70k no benefits claimed whatsoever. 

Currently, we are actively researching on moving across the ditch - all depandent on the upcoming general election. 

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You're not alone.

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Same here, if ACT get in we're gone by lunchtime.

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What chances of a volte face? Has happened before with HSBC.

Any suggestions on a bank to move to if you have a mortgage with HSBC and an old account with NZ's least favorite retail bank? Asking for a friend. 

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I didn't even realise HSBC was a retail bank in NZ.

I still have an account with them in the UK, courtesy of my Midland Bank account I had when I was a kid, but they have never been all that helpful since they took over.

When I moved to Japan in the 90's the Japanese office of HSBC had no record of me having an account with them, because they told me they were different entities even if they share a name.

In the end, I opened a CitiBank account instead, which I could use world-wide without any issues.

I suspect HSBC still have different technology systems for each region, and that don't communicate with each other well enough to handle stricter rules.

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