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With growing media clamour for customers to haggle with banks, Westpac CEO says local bank managers are 'empowered to make decisions within guidelines'

With growing media clamour for customers to haggle with banks, Westpac CEO says local bank managers are 'empowered to make decisions within guidelines'

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By Gareth Vaughan

With customers increasingly encouraged to haggle with banks over mortgage interest rates in a competitive and low growth market, Westpac CEO Peter Clare is encouraging both Westpac customers and other banks' customers to open a dialogue with his bank.

Speaking to interest.co.nz yesterday after Westpac announced a initiative in partnership with MYOB offering businesses a free website for a year, Clare said Westpac's local bank managers had "degrees of discretion" to apply.

"So if a customer comes in and they're a very long standing customer, and they're changing a property, the local bank manager is empowered to make decisions within guidelines around the rate that gets offered to that customer," said Clare. "So we would encourage all of our customers to have a dialogue with us about the depth of their relationship, the products they're buying and what they aim to buy in the future."

"But more importantly from my perspective, we'd encourage other bank customers to come and talk to Westpac and see what Westpac can offer in terms of a total package of relationship against who they may be currently banking with," Clare added.

The Westpac Group has been targeting increasing the number of its customers taking four or more products from the bank. In last month's half-year results briefing group CEO Gail Kelly highlighted that 49% of Westpac NZ customers had four or more products versus just 29.9% at Westpac in Australia. Meanwhile, the latest Reserve Bank data shows industry wide housing loans up 1.4% to NZ$174.590 billion in the year to April. That 1.4% growth compares with double digit growth between 2003 and 2008.

Along with all the other banks Westpac has cut advertised fixed-term mortgage rates in recent weeks as swap, or wholesale, rates the banks themselves borrow at fall with weakening expectations for both global and domestic economic growth. See all bank advertised mortgage rates here.

Last month interest.co.nz highlighted that, in an environment of weak credit growth, banks were open to doing deals with customers behind the scenes to prevent them defecting to rivals. See Bernard Hickey's article here. A wave of stories with the same message have followed across the local media, including a New Zealand Herald story last week that said mortgage rates had "hit rock bottom" as banks offer thousands of dollars in cash and slash advertised interest rates in response to pressure from home-buyers for deals.

Financial markets are now betting the Reserve Bank will cut its Official Cash Rate by around 40 basis points over the next year to around 2%. However, none of the banks have yet cut their advertised floating, or variable, mortgage rates which are now up to 59 basis points higher than the lowest advertised one-year rate. The overall percentage of total mortgages by value on floating interest rates has this year reached its highest point since the Reserve Bank began keeping records on fixed versus floating in June 1998. The latest data shows 63%, or NZ$108.8 billion, of the total NZ$172.6 billion mortgages were floating at the end of April, although recent fixed rate cuts have probably started a trend back towards fixed rates.

Asked whether Westpac might cut its floating rate, Clare said pricing was reviewed on a continuous basis.

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Never bank with Westpac! never

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..... they're OK . I used to bank with them , no problems ..... on occasion I still have dealings with Westpac . Sweet as , really . Perfectly fine folks there .....

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huh. i went in to westpac last week to see what they could offer regarding our existing mortgage with them. made the 'mistake' of saying how we were looking at going with another bank.  the guy across the table from me said - well you just said you're going to move. i could offer you a deal but they're only for loyal customers. we were just looking to move. now we will.

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LOL....what an -------, how to lose a customer.....but how big was your mortgage? my one is small so I have found I have no leverage on that and since I dont put any "profitable" business ie insurance policies etc their way they are dis-interested...

regards

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300k. he totally was a jerk. i'm not easily offended and wouldn't have cared less if he'd just stuck to what he could and couldn't do for me but to shut things down and sit there and effectively call me disloyal... why would anyone bank with these guys?

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Seen deals where Westpac are paying upwards of $5,000 plus of break fees on fixed loans and $2,000 cash to get people to switch to them.

Banks paying break fees has changed the whole game as it means customers become fully  mobile between banks but also means if they are paying all this to new clients there are not much left to support existing clients.

having said that to suggest someone is disloyal as they had looked at other bank rates is a bit arrogrant.

From what I see Westpac / ANZ / National are most agressive in paying break fees to get new clients and ASB least.

If you want the best deal from your bank then have plenty of business with them. As Banks only earn about half there incoem from interest margin if you have  those other products or willing to offer them to your new bank you will have much more leverage.

You not going to get much of  deal bu just offering them a small mortgage and thats all as there is limited profit. They are like any other business: offer them more and they will generally give you more discount.

 

 

 

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Hmmm my boss also just rang telstraclear and said the adsl customers are getting a better deal than cable, give me a deal or I'll move.....they matched their adsl price it seems....watch this space.....we'll see how it unfolds.....I'll do the same if his goes through.

regards

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Wow..........Im 10% of that so I can understand them not caring about me.....there is no money in talking to me....but 300k....what is your LVR?

Any business that did that to me I'd walk away, loyalty works both ways and is earned IMHO not a given.

I'd move and then write to the CEO of Westpac....

regards

 

 

 

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Ivan, like how about you consider all aspects instead of jumping to erroreous conclusions which you seem to do all the time.

I said to ChrisJ yesterday, I dont hate property, I dislike the bubble its in because I see huge (50%+) losses.  I paid considerably less than that and its my home....so at worst I lose some paper wealth that Ive never realised....

If you also read what I write I comment on negative equity....So if you are looking at a 95% mortgage today v renting, IMHO you are a fool to buy, I would not.  Now when the market has collapsed then being a PI makes a lot of sense to me.....and I might even do it....time will tell.

I also comment on debt generally.....so no HP on a car.  I actually use public transport and walk to get to work. My ad-hoc car is 17 years old and paid off and does 32mpg and which I maintain myself.  I do have a very old SUV which is put off the road over winter and I only use it to haul anything the car wont manage....it does <2500km a year....

In terms of energy / co2 my carbon foot print is 75% of the NZ norm and Im working on getting that down. My energy bill Ive lopped 20% off last year....aiming for 10%+ this year....

regards

 

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...... you've gotta admire the sheer obsessiveness of a guy who not only has calculated the Kiwi " carbon footprint " per capita , but also ....... has counted is own " carbon footprint " in minute detail , and is 100 % sure that he's running on 75 % of the average ......

 

I just don't own a SUV ..... seemed easier than counting kilometres and carbon feet ....

 

.... and the little Toyota Corolla 1600  averages 36 mph ...... I get trained professionals to keep it tweaked & tuned to maximum efficiency ......

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LOL....nope...

but I find it farcical that ppl such as yourself seem to expect others to be lilly white....is the world that black and white for you....obviously so.....pity to be so limited.

regards

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50% burst?.. your not one of these anti PI's are you? Bernard said it was going to be a 30% burst and people are still laughing at this!

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50% minimum, 60~75% realistic ie 3 to 1 is about a 50% loss and then an undershoot.

Im not anti PI as I seem to keep saying....Im anti the property bubble.....and ppl thinking their tax free gains via property gambling is the way to national  weatlh.

regards

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I contacted Westpac to see if they were interested in my home lending biz (we already have our transactional and savings accounts with them).  Lending of 51% of the last QV so I would think a pretty good risk.  Was told that yes they would be interested in looking at refinancing us and give us a very generous (not) $1,000 towards our legal costs.  Rate wise I was told to look at their web site for their current rates and if there was another bank offering something better then they would look to match it. 

 

So, am I being too harsh but why the heck would I spend any further time in pushing them further.  Talk about giving them a golden opportunity to pick up another banks business.  Maybe they don't want new business.  Mr Peter Clare.... your thoughts?

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