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Jenée Tibshraeny questions why the Government decided to draw a line in the sand on climate change by threatening an already threatened form of energy - gas

Jenée Tibshraeny questions why the Government decided to draw a line in the sand on climate change by threatening an already threatened form of energy - gas

By Jenée Tibshraeny

The Government’s decision to curb new oil and gas exploration is more of an aggravator than a game-changer when it comes to New Zealand’s security of gas supply.

While gas meets around 15% of New Zealand’s energy needs and plays a key role in managing peaking electricity demand, the gas market has for years been tight.

Documents prepared by the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE) for Energy and Resources Minister Megan Woods explain that since a major write-down in reserves at the Maui field in 2002/3, it’s been thought New Zealand would only have enough gas to last 10 to 14 years.

While reserve levels have been buoyed by developments at existing producing fields, there hasn’t been a major new discovery since the Turangi field was found back in 2005.

This low hit rate has made it challenging for New Zealand to attract explorers. Internationally, for every four wells drilled, it is likely it will be commercially viable for one to be mined. In New Zealand, this rate is more like 10 to one.

While New Zealand has a favourable geopolitical environment, its isolated location and small domestic gas market make attracting explorers difficult.

Since the oil price fell in mid-2014, interest in New Zealand has also waned as explorers have focussed on cheaper markets elsewhere.

While there were 40 exploration wells drilled in 2013 and 2014, only four were drilled in 2015 and 2016.

Looking ahead, a major concern is that reserve levels at New Zealand’s largest producing gas field - Pohokura - are expected to be downgraded by 18% this year.

Equivalent to two thirds of New Zealand’s annual gas demand, the downgrade is estimated to see the country’s gas reserve levels dip below the 10-year mark.

So, Woods is correct in saying New Zealand’s gas supply was on track to being depleted this decade, regardless of her decision to ban new offshore exploration and phase out onshore exploration over three years.

The question however is why would she introduce a policy that only exacerbates an existing problem?

Sure, climate change is a bigger problem. But according to MBIE, an oil/gas exploration ban won’t actually reduce emissions (we will come to this later).

So where does this leave our security of gas supply; an issue MBIE says “remains critically important”?

Methanex in the middle

All eyes are currently on Methanex - a methanol producer that in 2017 used 41% of New Zealand’s gas supply.

Should gas demand tighten, Methanex will likely be the first major gas user to exit the market.

MBIE expects this to happen by 2026, further to Methanex by 2021 scaling back its operations.

John Kidd of Woodward Partners, a sharebroking, research and advisory firm, believes it will stay for at least another four or five years, as it has just committed to refurbishing some of its plants. From there, it will reassess its situation.  

While MBIE believes Methanex closing could provide a “buffer” to other gas users like Fonterra, Balance Agri-nutrients, the pulp and paper sector, Refining New Zealand and New Zealand Steel, Kidd says it’s too simplistic to assume an exit would make more gas available further into the future.

Due to the symbiotic relationship gas producers have with Methanex, if it closed, the supply of gas might be cut back accordingly.

Kidd says the leverage Methanex has in the gas market is triple that which Tiwai has in the electricity market.

Methanex contributed $834 million to New Zealand’s economy in 2017, which is equivalent to 0.3% of GDP. It employed 270 staff and 100 contractors.

It has declined interest.co.nz’s invitation to comment on its situation.

The cost of risk

“I don’t think we’re in a crisis,” Kidd assures.

“But we’re definitely in a tightening market.”

He says it’s essential companies already operating in New Zealand keep investing locally.  

He notes the outage at Pohokura emphasises the exposure New Zealand’s domestic gas sector has to asset-specific outages that affect major fields.

It also highlights the need for ongoing investment to ensure assets are maintained and new production is brought to market before it’s physically needed.

“Each of these become more difficult propositions under the Government’s policy shift on offshore exploration, which brings rise to heightened continuity risks to the supply-side,” Kidd says.

“Increased risk is typically priced by the market.”

Long term, this is likely to hike domestic energy prices as oil and gas companies cover higher capital costs.

Short term, supply disruptions also come at a cost.

“It is unsurprising to see spot gas prices surge over the past month as gas sellers have taken advantage of tighter supply conditions to sell into good demand volume,” Kidd says.

This MBIE graph shows how gas prices have fluctuated with supply:

An emissions delusion

Coming back to lowering carbon emissions - the supposed driver behind what the Government admits was a “political” decision to ban new offshore exploration - MBIE says this will have a "negligible impact" on reducing domestic greenhouse gas emissions and will "likely increase" global emissions.

It says the methanol produced in New Zealand by Methanex using gas, is likely to be replaced by methanol produced in China using coal.

The International Energy Agency expects the growth in coal-fired energy generation to be equivalent to four new 1,000 megawatt coal-fired Huntly power stations being built every three months for the next 23 years.

So should a major gas discovery be made, MBIE says New Zealand’s LNG exports could offset some of this higher coal usage.

And should a discovery be made that would allow reticulation to the South Island, gas could also replace the low grade coal typically used for large industrial processes in that part of the country.

Further highlighting gas’s role in the transition to a low emissions economy, MBIE says, “Transitioning to 100 per cent renewable electricity too quickly risks raising electricity prices to levels that could impact on fuel-switching, for example, by slowing the uptake of electric vehicles or high temperature electric heat plants that replace coal-fired boilers.”

MBIE points out New Zealand’s climate change efforts should be focused on reducing demand. After all, the vast bulk of energy-related emissions stem from the combustion of fossil fuels.

A cynical conclusion unavoidable

So where does all of this leave us?

Looking at a future where there’s a higher likelihood that coal rather than gas will be used in the transition to a low-carbon economy; a future with higher energy costs - at least in the near to mid-term.

We weren’t facing a particularly comforting future on the energy front before the Government’s oil/gas exploration ban was announced.

But the Government's political move, which ignores all the advice it was given, only adds to the uncertainty we were quietly contending with before.

While a court ruling or a change of government may see the ban reversed, investor confidence has already been rattled and we don’t have much time on our side.

Against the challenging backdrop New Zealand already faces in terms of attracting explorers, this decision may be the final nail in the coffin.

It will take a major find, some hefty investment, and a deal with Methanex for there to be gas available for anyone in New Zealand to use in 10 years’ time.

The hope of course is that by then the production of cleaner forms of energy will have ramped up to the point they’re economic to use at scale.

The MBIE documents released under the Official Information Act don’t provide detail on this.

Coupled with the fact Woods couldn’t provide any clear comment on this when I interviewed her in May, one can safely assume the Government doesn’t actually know what the capacity is for cleaner forms of energy to be scaled up.

Increased uptake of electric vehicles will see demand for oil drop. However I can’t see New Zealand’s overall demand for energy falling, unless we take the not-in-my-backyard approach and pawn off the energy-intensive production of the likes of methanol, steel and milk powder to other countries, only to then import the goods they produce.

It is clear that with the security of gas supply already vulnerable, the Government has taken the wrong approach to drawing a line in the sand on climate change.

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Gas in CCGT's is our only option down the track for hydro dry years to cover for long periods of no wind as they are experiencing in the UK right now where wind production is going to be low for about 1 month.

Interesting to look at UK generation now where with a huge nuclear program, biofuels and massive wind investment plus cables to Europe providing significant energy - CCGT's are today still generating more than 50% of their load.

We have no Nukes, no Tasmania, no coal stations to re-open - in short with Transpower's latest report suggesting maybe 300% increase in electricity demand by 2050 it is absolute critical we retain significant gas supplies for generation.

CCGT's are going to be a very significant part of our generation into the foreseeable future.

In addition gas for industrial processes will always be a critical input.

We just have to have very significant and stable gas resources available at reasonable prices going forward. Importing it makes no economic sense - and we may not be able to afford it of China's import trends are anything to go by.

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The biggest concern will be the ability to generate electricity at peak times.

When all those EVs rumble into the garage at 6pm and plug in. Out go the lights.

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I aren't an expert and don't have the figures.
However, it seems strange and I stagger to understand how that in the past few decades we must have had significantly increasing electricity consumption - such as move from wood burners to heat pumps, greater use of technology based on electricity use - and a shift from coal fired power stations etc, and yet we have not had any significant electric power generation plant development.
I strongly support environmental protection (I am up off tramping in the Whirinaki Forest next week) and in doing so support increasing use of electric cars. I was in China a few months and it took me 10 minutes to work out why all the vehicles (cars and scooters) were so quiet - mostly electric, only a few lpg fueled and none seemed petrol driven.
From an environmental sustainability point, I look forward to such development in New Zealand but fail to understand why so many proposed projects have strong environmental challenges (e.g. Mighty River, and wind turbines especially in Hawke's Bay).
So totally agree with you Noncents, but feel my lack of understanding of this issue must mean I'm thick as.

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Electrifying read.. Not all good..possibly a shock.

http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/2108353/beijings-grand-pl…

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heres a time lapse of a wind turbine construction ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBbBh5xZ1gQ

see if you can spot any fossil fuels in its construction.
But we get some fantastic intermittent electricity out the far end right? ...

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There's a lot of reasons we don't see the "expected" increase in generation.

1. More efficient power stations.
2. Natural Gas: It's not just residential use (Hot water/Heating/Cooking). A lot of large industrial and commercial users switched to gas as it was cheaper. If this load were to return to Electricity, well....
3. Residential habits changing (mostly due to price) Look at how we live now compared to 20 years ago.
- Shorter showers/less baths
- Cold wash for clothes is normal
- More energy efficient appliances
- switch things off at the wall
- Turn lights off when not in use
- Insulate houses to retain heat

When the Gas run outs, we will see a mad scramble for generation.

We currently use around 200PJ of gas annually. To match that we would need about 6,000 MW more electricity generation. Of course a lot of that can't switch to Electricity (Methanex, Urea plants, etc...) and some is used in Electricity Generation so doesn't convert, but also means less generation than at present.

Based on my calcs, it would look roughly like this:

Generation (all numbers approximate)
Current:10,000 MW
Less Gas: 2,000 MW
Leaves 8,000 MW of generation.

Demand
Current: 9,000 MW
Plus Gas: 2,500 MW (assume all Gas that can, converts to Electricity)
Equals: 11,500 MW of demand

So we have a 3,500 MW Deficit int terms of generation, and that is without any redundancy. Now factor in Electric vehicles...

Like you I strongly believe we need to better protect the environment. But it has to a be looked at as a total sum.

At the moment we are like: Yeah!, we saved a Panda. But we killed a Orangutan to do it.

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Thanks
My greatest concern is that from inception to competition (especially with RMA) is a considerable time span and I see nothing on the horizon. I am very supportive of the RMA (getting a balance between development and sustainable environment with public consultation as the means of achieving this) but unfortunately I think so much has been bogged down/ hijacked through public consultation - Christchurch earthquake recovery is an example.
A concern is that while you look at the supply balance you have not factored in natural disasters; for example either volcanic activity could put the Waikato River hydro stations (as well as geothermal plants), or significant movement of the Alpine Fault could disrupt production from one or more of the major South Island hydro stations.

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Disasters is a whole other issue.

Mt Taranaki could erupt (or a major earthquake) and remove 100% Oil and Gas overnight.
Wellington could get a quake that breaks the HVDC
Auckland could erupt removing all the demand

There is so much that "Could" Happen in this country.

Heck it doesn't even have to be a natural disaster to have a major impact.

Labour could free up 20% more power right now just by removing Tiwai Point overnight (a la O&G Exploration). Maybe that is their solution?

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Delayed charging settings are common on current EVs, pretty much a given on future EVs. So you plug the car in at 6pm, but it won't start charging till 11pm, giving a good 6-8 hours of charging.
Also if needed the power companies/ govt could insist that sparkies wire EV charging equipment to the ripple control system used for hot water. Thats the lowest tech kludgey answer, I suspect that something much smarter and networked will come about that allows the car, the charger and the power system to negotiate optimal charging profile. ie, you plug the car in, it tells the network that you need 23kwHrs of charge between now and 6am, and the system dynamically manages load to ensure your car gets charged in time, while managing and scheduling load on the grid.

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Changing the time of EV charging does not alter the quantum of energy required.

We are talking energy here - not capacity.

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I was replying to Noncents, who was concerned about peak charging.

And yes, total energy is also an issue, but at the simplest level, EVs are far more energy efficient than ICEs, (telsa model 3 at motorway speeds is ~150Whr/km) so instead of doing all the heavy hydrocracking operations to turn sour crude into diesel and petrol, we send relatively heavy oil products to thermal power stations where they are burnt more efficiently to generate power to charge EVs. Not the ideal answer, but a short term possibility while more green generation capacity is brought online.

Of course, by the time EVs have come down in cost enough to be the mainstream (ie, batteries have got cheap) , then solar power with storage will also be practical since its based on similar battery technology, so the evening peak may well be a non issue as houses run the heat pumps and stoves off the energy they generated during the day. All of course depending on how forward looking govt policy is set.

Once battery prices drop, there are going to be many changes in the way the power grid operates.

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You have a valid point, but I would also wager that the reality is much different.

Habits form very quickly. A flat battery, an emergency trip, a longer than normal drive, or forgetting to charge the night before.

People will plug in and charge at every given opportunity. Just look at how people use their phones.

Does this describe anyone you know?
- Home from work
- Wallet and keys on table/dresser/bench
- Phone into charger.

Why would a car be different?

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well, lets see.

Do you fill up you petrol car every day? why not? because your car will go for several days on a tank of gas. Guess what, if you buy an EV with an appropriately sized battery the same thing happens. You don't need to charge everyday (but you can, because it doesn't involve a detour)

And as i said, you set the charge timer, so you get home and physically plug in, but charging doesn't start straight away. Next morning you get up and the car is charged and ready to go.

And in the worst case.. ie, you forget to charge for several days, you jump in the car and notice the low battery warning, then you have to detour to a DC fast charger for a quick top-up (and probably pay for the privilege). With current technology the tesla model 3 charges at 480 miles range per hour of charging at a supercharger. So if you plug in for 10 minutes you add 120kms of driving range, which will cover most users daily driving. So to be really caught short you need to have messed up in several ways. Now currently most NZ fast chargers are about half that speed, but that will change too.

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I can also drive my car out of the house at 1/4 of a tank and know that I can fill up pretty much anywhere at anytime in about 5 minutes (and I only have to do so weekly/fortnightly/monthly)

With an EV, it is not so simple. You would be looking at waiting at least 30 min for a decent charge, I highly doubt most will pay extra for a faster charge (We don't pay for a faster fill)

Yes, they could charge less to just make it to the destination, but then they are going to charge there.

Can you see workplaces/parking lots/etc... where people park all day fitting out chargers for every car? No

Personally I don't even think there will be charging stations (at least not as common as Petrol stations) simply because unlike Petrol, people can charge at home. If people can charge at home, why do they need to charge on the run.

This is actually one of the big benefits in my eyes, as it should free up vast amounts of land in prime locations.

Essentially it is easy (and cheap) to charge at home. So it will become Habit - the same as with phones, people will charge at every opportunity.

I am all for EVs (at least when the tech is there to sufficiently replace ICE), but we need a government that understands the wider implications of them.

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I used to be able to take my horse. He could go anywhere anytime and was fitited with self driving tech. Could sleep or drink all at once. If he got low on juice i just stopped by a hedge.

damn petrol driven lumps of iron will never take off....

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You could, but it would take you days to get from A to B.

The reasons cars overtook horses, was because they were better in every aspect. Faster, Carried heavier loads, didn't get wet, etc...

At this point EVs are not better than ICE.

Will they take get better. I hope they will.

Is NZ infrastructure prepared for when they do. No!

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So you basically agree with me. Yes people will plug in as soon as they get home.. but the charging won't start until later due to the delayed charging setting (which can be overridden if needed). So yes, you will have a charged battery every day, so Fast chargers wont be on every other corner as gas stations once were. But they will be there, as can be evidenced by the fact they already exist! More EVs will mean more public chargers, and they will be needed for people like apartment dwellers taht don't have places to charge EVs at home.

You will pay for using a public charger, otherwise you will get no electrons and wont be able to go anywhere (you can go home and charge for a couple of hours instead of stopping at a public charger instead if you are that cheap/stupid I guess), just like you pay for using gas station now. There wont be different rates for different charging speeds, the charger owner wants to give you charge as fast as your car can take it so you get out of the way for the next customer.

This is of course all dependent on you being forgetful enough to have not charged for several days to be in that position in your normal daily life. If you go on a road trip you simply have to plug into the charger at whatever town you stop for lunch/dinner at. 30mins charging on a supercharger for a Model 3 is 320kms of range, and I dunno about you, but that is ~4hrs driving at real world speeds in NZ. After 4 hours I want to stretch my legs and have a pee anyway, and a cup of coffee or something to eat.

And no, most people I've lived with don't put their phone on charge as soon as the get home, they plug it in when they go to bed. Most phones these days don't need charging that often. Remember before smart phones when we had mobile phones whose batteries lasted weeks.. did we plug them in every day? No, we waited to they started their pitiful bleeping, then plugged them in. Same as I don't fill my car up till the fuel light comes on because I have a day or two of commuting from then before I start to stress about running out of gas. This is exactly what i would expect to be the case with using an EV once they become common, they won't be the pathetic gutless nissan leaf type things with a 150km range on a charge, they'll be more like the current Teslas, quiet, fast, decent range,but without the $100k+ pricetag that Teslas have at the moment.

You really are trying very hard to make a mountain out of a molehill. A for effort.

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All those people that live in places like Ponsonby and Newtown or in flats. How are they going to charge their cars at night? How many extension cords in the street? And who is going to pay for the uprating of the distribution system?

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EV's are far more energy efficient than ICE's ...
We send heavy oil products to thermal power stations .. burnt more efficiently ..

Both statements are simply not true.

Marginal generator today is a CCGT at mid 50%. Grid and distribution losses about 10% Battery charge about 95 % Battery discharge about 95% Controller and Electric motor about 95 %

New EV loads will thus by definition be charged by the CCGT's.

So cumulative efficiency is 0.55 x 0.9 x 0.96 x 0.95 x 0.95 = ~ 43 %.

This is no different from many modern engines in Toyota's, Honda's Nissans etc running Atkinson cycles.

Heavy oil in power stations ....

A thermal power station on heavy oil is only about 35% efficient. Think Huntly. Makes no sense whatsoever to run these for generation. Substitute 35 % for 55 % above.

CCGT's can convert to low sulphur diesel - they cannot burn heavy oil. The sulphur content would dissolve the hot turbine blades and build up deposits. Simply not an option.

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Okay, so i may be wrong about burning heavy oil.

But quick calcs 35MJ per litre of diesel., 50% efficiency of conversion = 17.5MJ output / 3600 sec = 4.8kwhr of electricity per litre of diesel burnt.
4.8 - 10% =4.32kwhr to the house.

4.32 * 0.85% to charge the ev = 3.6kwhr into the battery. (95% is higher than real world results get.)

3600 /150whr per km = 24km driving at motorway speed per litre of diesel burnt at power station. Thats better than any non-hybrid production car i'm aware of, and on par with real world figures from most hybrids. It removes all those emissions from the roadways, benefiting everybody that doesn't have to breath that shit on their daily commute every day for 30 years of their life. Also removes all that waste engine oil, oil filters, air filters, spark plugs.

I also notice you failed to mention that Atkinson cycle motors are mostly on hybrids, and that they don't run exclusively in Atkinson mode if they aren't, because they only achieve 43% over a very narrow range of operating conditions, and have crap torque. so yes, Atkinson cycle motors can achieve UP TO 43% thermal efficiency, but that is not typically achieved in the real world.

As a stop gap measure I think that would be acceptable, but as I said above, its not ideal, nor is it the end point.

And as I said when Labour made the braindead annoucement, its a stupid policy, and yes, staying with natural gas for power generation and lots of large industrial uses would be a better move until we have sufficient renewable generation to avoid problems.

I'm no fan of this silly Labour policy (or of Labour in general), but the future of private cars is electric, so you may as well accept that and start adjusting to it.

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We can just burn coal instead, because that’s far better for the environment.

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Hooten this morning nails the real reason Ardern made a captains call to kick the industry and Taranaki in the goolies - political survival due to incompetence driven errors of judgment from her team that had begun to unsettle the public.

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Strongly recommend that all read Hooton's article in Granny Herald.
As middleman points out that the basis for such a decision is questionable, considering that it appears the decision was made on an ad-hoc basis without consultation and without consideration of the consequences with those with expert knowledge. It appears to have been a bomb shell with MBIE and the oil and gas industry; it apparently wasn't even discussed at Cabinet.
It wasn't part of Labour Party policy (and apparently ruled out) and wasn't part of the coalition agreement.

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His hypothesis is that that ban was brought in as labour was rattled by the hirschfeld/rnz thing (honestly, did anyone outside Wellington really care about this?), the Russian spy thing (ditto) and Kiwibuild. It’s the kind of thing you would from Alex jones. But yes, I otherwise agree that the decision was completely dumb.

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You also forgot:
- The reduction in trees
- The ongoing debacle that is fees-free
- The pregnancy
- The "not new" but increased taxes

I doubt it was "the" reason, but you can't deny it immediately removed the heat from all those other things.

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Good to see a reasoned discussion of this. Actually a very restrained one at that. To me it us utter madness, but there you are. These projects take 15-20 years to go from exploration to production. It sends a big message to mining investors - Don't Come Here We Are A Backward Nation Who Will Change The Rules Without Consultation.

Hopefully the silly people in Taranaki who voted for this will learn something. Watch out Invercargill, you're next.

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Totally agree with one small amendment. Those of us who voted for labour did not vote for "this".

I'm pretty sure no one saw that coming. I had my doubts about the house building but though a message needed to be sent loud and clear that something needed to change. But to shut down an industries that we are going to be more dependent on in the near future and kick the house building down the road and change nothing about regulation around building materials or consents. I'm just staggered.

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This is why I'm tribal. You didn't vote for this, but your vote helped enable the behaviour because at heart Taxinda is nothing like what she tries to present herself as. She was sprung as a 'Comrade' before the election who knows best and to hell with democracy. The leopard isn't going to change its spots. This is the most incompetent government outcome we could possibly have had. I'm not staggered or surprised we are going to hell in a hand basket. At least its all easily reversed.

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Hi Grendel
You may not have specifically seen this coming but it is just part of our MMP system.
Watch video of Jacinda announcing this and you will see James Shaw on one side struggling to keep from breaking out in a big smile, and on the other side was Shayne Jones also trying hard not to look like a Cheshire cat smug that NZ First had showered Taranaki in lots or regional development monies.
So under MMP, it continues that Labour is being held to ransom by two parties who don't even now make the threshold for representation.

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I hope you learn from this .

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And the bewildered deputy leader of the Labour Party Kelvin Davis once again showing he's not up to the job by making a sexist retort and trotting out an obscure metaphor about puddles and lakes while under a pretty normal level of questioning pressure at a select committee.

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Yet he is decidedly better than Simon burnt Bridges.

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A much wider look at the underlying problem. https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2018/jun/07/canada-oil-… "Globally, more than $6tn has been divested from fossil fuels. This money will be reinvested in renewable energy, clean technologies and other sectors that create more jobs per dollar invested. This makes it a risky time to spend taxpayer money on carbon-intensive energy. The rest of the world is prioritizing cleaner energy sources."

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Just have plenty of baseload backup Didge - nuclear or carbon?. "Britain’s gone seven days with almost no wind generation and forecasts show the calm conditions persisting until the middle of the month. The wind drought has pushed up day-ahead power prices to the highest levels for the time of year for at least a decade."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-05/wind-disappears-in-b…

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Hard to reconcile your statements with the fact that coal prices are at a 6 year high.

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Lomborg's latest publication estimates between US $ 1 - 2 Trillion pa - depending upon efficiency of global initiatives implemented to reduce IPPC's model year 2100 temperature forecasts by 0.05º C vs do nothing.

About the most insane thing ever conceived by Homo Sapiens ever !

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I was going to counter that organised religion trumps that for stupidity, but the Thermogeddonism of political climate change is in reality organised religion (repleat with articles of faith, tithing and doctrinaire persecution of dissent and schism)

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I hope you are both young enough to see just how wrong you are.

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What a great analogy, however this is worse than religion in that they want the non believers to tithe as well.

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A free Electric bike each would fix most ills...and do away with bottlenecks, need for more endless roads and car parking and I could charge you all to re-charge em, via electricity bills so will pay for itself...eventually...at 50P a shot. Cheaper than chips, repairs and warrants.

When you lose weight peddling, we all win...Hospitals will be a thing of the past.....maybe.

Keep the car for devaluation purposes and a rainy Day, or swap your 4x4 for a tiddler.....1000cc eg....and loose weight, energy and a tank.

Hire one when necessary....probably never.

It is Friday...I like a good wind up....and we could even put the recharge button back on the bike, for coasting down hills and when peddling yer fancy goods....saddled with others.

You could even talk when peddling this.....but the cacophony would be used to put the wind up...with Sails over the roads. Generate a lot of wind that way. More electric....see....solutions are endless...

Back to my beer....

Do not drink and drive, ride yer bike....get fit, then eat chips or whatever yer fancy...with a beer at home.

Live off the fat of the land...

Peddle this as best ye can...

See ya.

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A very good and timely article, Jenée. The We Know Best crew seem to be falling into a pattern of making grand pronouncements without either due diligence or the usual PR to prep the unwashed for the consequences.

A common sequence in measurement tech is 'Perturb and Observe'. It's used, for example in Maximum Power Point Tracking (MPPT) for solar controllers. It's effective because it isn't necessary to deduce a starting point - just start anywhere, perturb in one direction, and either continue perturbing in that direction if observed results improve or reverse direction if that's made things worse. It's generally done in a short time loop, so that Perturb then Observe happen frequently.

Our crew seem to be using a variation: start any old where, evidence unnecessary, Perturb, then Fail to observe (or even Predict) results. Let alone monitoring 'em with any apparent Frequency.

It's certainly Novel. But then as us wizened old cynics know all too well, Novelty is in itself a significant Project Risk.

Still, we all get to Observe, and Experience! the consequences. Lucky, lucky us.....

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Any Political Party that campaigns on reversing this shortsighted Policy gets my vote....

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Maybe an electric bike...more sensible...Today.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12067136

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That is wrong about closing Tiwai will free up electricity for NZ. It will only free it up for Southland. If you bothered to read the Transpower reports, they say they are even now constrained getting power north. It would need extensive new lines from Roxburgh to Benmore, another DC cable and a new set of lines from Wellington to Whakamaru. How long do you think that would take, remembering how many people would file opposition to the consent applications, and how much would it cost (transmission lines are about $2M a lilometre).
So please do some basic research before making fatuous comments

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Sorry, this is out of sequence, It was supposed to be a reply to Nonsense coment at 16:13

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