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Bayleys achieved sales on exactly half the properties at their latest auctions in Auckland, Waikato and Hawke's Bay

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Bayleys achieved sales on exactly half the properties at their latest auctions in Auckland, Waikato and Hawke's Bay

Bayleys Real Estate had a busier week in their auction rooms this past week, marketing 52 properties in Auckland, Waikato and Hawke's Bay for sale by auction and achieving sales on 26 of them, giving a sales clearance rate of exactly 50%.

At the Auckland auctions 35 properties were on offer and sales were achieved on 17 of them, the remainder being passed in for sale by negotiation or in a few cases withdrawn from auction prior to the event.

The properties offered were from throughout the Auckland region, and ranged from a house at Waiau Pa in south Auckland to CBD apartments and a large Lockwood style bach at Whangapoua on the Coromandel Peninsula.

Prices at the Auckland auctions ranged from $250,000 for a two bedroom apartment on Symonds Street in the CBD, to $2,225,000 for a three bedroom/two bathroom house in Westmere.

In the Waikato Bayleys marketed 16 properties for sale by auction last week and achieved sales on exactly half of them.

These ranged from houses in Hamilton and Cambridge to lifestyle properties in Te Awamutu and Miranda.

Prices ranged from $435,000 for a two bedroom house on a full section in Chartwell, to $1,407,000 for a three bedroom house 5.5 hectare lifestyle property at Te Awamutu.

The full results with the prices achieved on individual properties are available on our Residential Auction Results page.

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Looks like people can see what's coming and want it sold ASAP. !

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Goodness me! All my November property values have come down further by $100k to $300k on Homes.co.nz ...help!

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In times of stress, people sell what they can, not what they want.

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Tis but a flesh wound

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That will become infected!

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Bayleys failed to sell exactly half the properties at their latest auctions in Auckland, Waikato, and Hawke's Bay.

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Nathan Rothschild once said, “Fortunes are made by buying low and selling too soon.” Might be an idea to free up your capital whilst there are still some non resident investors around before that window of opportunity closes.

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A quick glance at the latest results shows that what sold still sold for some very good prices.

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Got an older house on about 1200 sqm in the middle of Cambridge town.Been thinking of putting four two story apartments on it.But with this imminent crash coming would i be better off waiting and get a builder that is desperate for the work?Therfor getting a better price per square metre and a better quality Builder.
At The moment down here all the best builders are backed up over a year.
I welcome your ideas.Cheers

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What would draw people to living in an apartment in Cambridge, would have thought it is more suited to those who want to spread their wings a bit.

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Sounds like you don't have much choice but to wait. I would say anything within commuting distance of Hamilton will be a good investment.

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Thanks zac.really want to get ball rolling but if and when a correction happens I may get it done cheaper. And quicker.seems like it's 2007 all over again down here.prices still going up but losing steam slowly but surely

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Agree - putting apartments in Cambridge would be like putting a cheese factory on the moon.

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Ha ha so you havnt heard of Lakewood developments then?apartments and retail.first stage all sold.mostly only four bedroom houses being built down here but one and two bedroom units/apartments in huge demand.I've got a mix of ten one and two bedroom units and they are in huge demand when one becomes available

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But should I wait and get the build cheaper when this price collapse happens???

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Narrabeen , your logic is astounding.

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Ha Ha are you taking the Mickey Cowpat

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We built our own home 2009. The builder charged cost + 10%. The roof, and windows were supplied essentially at cost by suppliers. But with the oligopoly on building supplies there was no savings in this area. It almost appeared the building supply companies had upped prices to maximise profits on the actual sales they were making, as they thought anyone building in this environment had to build or were not constrained by cost. Labour was about 20% of the build cost, and was not really cheaper, though we had the more efficient builders on site (those that had not been laid off). This was in the depths of despair when everyone thought the world you going to end, and we saved approximately 10% of previous build cost.

If the dollars falls theroetically some materials may go up in price. The main saving will be in not paying superprofit to contractors, and having a more efficient build crew. But, I would not bank on building materials falling in price.

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Makes sense Mja Thanks

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I just had a close look at 15 of the properties that sold last week. Nothing stands out as an especially good buy. Just the usual very high prices paid. Very high prices for well presented and not so well presented in popular locations.

This house in Henderson was "affordable" selling for 558k:
http://stephanievivian.harcourts.co.nz/Property/823696/HT170913/3-Mawne…

This house seems odd. Is it an amazing bargain, an error or leasehold? Sold for 640k. Anyone know?
https://www.bayleys.co.nz/1751316

I won't give my % over RV result s you guys don't appreciate it. Unless anyone wants to know.

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Go on send am thru zac.

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15 properties, sold for 20.966M, RV =14.355M 46.05% over RV

I didn't include the St Johns one as that must be leasehold or a mistake.

I also did another check comparing homes.co.nz estimate with actual sale on 14 properties. They under estimated on 12 of the properties. 5 of them by over 100K. 2 properties they over estimated. One of them was the Henderson place I linked to above, possibly the best buy of the lot - probably needs a bit of tarting up.
I have moved away from homes.co.nz to TradeMe which I find easier to use.

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Yes, a lot of St John’s properties are leasehold. You are quite correct. When do the 2017 RVs kick in? Still lots on the market and lots selling on Auckland’s North Shore. Drove past a couple of open homes this morning. No one shopping. It is wasn’t that long ago you’d see queues of cars and hordes of people rushing around them frantically... it’s all very interesting.

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Once the Jacinda ban kicks in early next year we can no longer sell existing homes to the lovely people from Shanghai, unless they hold Australian citizenship. A lot of panic buying happening right now before the last gate is shut.

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Why on earth would anyone panic buy now, when in a matter of weeks time the pool of buyers, that the new owner will have, will be diminished? It's like panicking to get into the paddock at the slaughter-house before the gate shuts.....

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Owning a piece of New Zealand for the long haul.

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Ah, yes....the very long haul! I've got offshore owners behind me and they ' panic bought' last November ( that was the last true panic time, and anyone looking to sell, got out nicely!). They've AiBnB'd it and have had....two weekend stays in the last year. Now that may not bother them yet, but over the very long haul, and with deteriorating conditions...it may. Then what? Who do they sell to with a reduced pool of buyers? New Zealanders? I doubt many of them would (or could) want to lash out that kind of money for what it is!

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Get in when you can mentality. They have to park their money somewhere.

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So ignorance then? Again, why would any thinking person enter a market, any market, where you KNOW that the potential buyers for whatever you have is about to fall? It doesn't matter what it is. You'd be a seller if the number of buyers is going to fall....

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The number of buyers won't be falling forever, especially once National is re-elected at some stage in the future. A lot of investors will be holding out for this.

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National will be re-elected at some stage; maybe even in 3 years time, who knows. But have you had a look at the current policies of other Right-leaning parties overseas recently? Trump, being the obvious one ( shut immigration etc) but even May; all of them looking at 'shutting the gates' for a while, and letting the domestic population 'settle down'. They all have different reasons for doing the same thing.That....is likely to be the Party that Bennet leads into the next Government.

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Rubbish, inane spruiking. National won't dare go down that stupid path again.

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There it is! BINGO! Just wait until 2020 and everything will be better. That is a very long road.

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I know someone who sold a property last week who had an offer from China that was about 40k higher than a local offer. He sold to the local one as needed the money now to settle on another purchase.

Chinese who are looking ahead for their children to go to school here may well "panic" and buy now to secure a place. I'm mowing the front verge for one in our street as they neglected to arrange that to be done but I know they are heading back early next year for the start of school.

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So property is already at a $40,0000 discount. That's insignificant if the sale price was $10,000,000, but if it was 'Just' $1,000,000 - it starts to add up. If local vendors are 'taking the cash' rather than hanging out for the funds to arrive from O/S, doesn;t that tell you something?

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It was a special case in that a large settlement was looming.

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So the financier wouldn't hang on for $40,000 more in the fullness of time? Of course, they would! That they wouldn't tells you how they viewed the potential of the off-shore buyer to settle, and once that uncertainty comes into play, offshore buyers are effectively shut-out, now....

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Definitely panic buying right now...all the listings around my street have been sold within a couple weeks, with auction brought forward appearing left right and centre. Get in the coveted DGZ while you can!

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Or is it panic selling? There are two sides to any transaction...and CV? means very little!

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Yes panic selling to the lovely people from Shanghai too! It takes two to tango so to speak ^^

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The auctions being brought forward is a significant sign.

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Yes! 29 Paice Avenue was brought forward as the pre-Auction offer of $1.77M was accepted by the vendor, and it was sold under the hammer for $2.1M yesterday! Panic buying & selling in action right here right now.
https://www.barfoot.co.nz/606553

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" the pre-Auction offer of $1.77M was accepted" + " it was sold under the hammer for $2.1M ". How does that work? Is gazumping alive and well in New Zealand!

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Pre auction offer essentially sets the reserve price. They still have to go to auction but earlier. It's a bad strategy for a buyer in my view. The only advantage is the possibility of fewer potential buyers but it's like blood in the water and attracts buyers. Knowing someone else will buy a property for a certain price can give another buyer confidence. Many times the original bidder that was accepted doesn't win the auction.

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Thanks for the 'Selling Houses 101' lesson LOL

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So if I offered $1.77, and IT WAS ACCEPTED ( I assume contracts were signed etc. otherwise I wouldn't consider it ACCEPTED) you reckon it still can go to auction? Tell me more....

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Yes you sign a contract that says this is the price you will pay and the seller will sell if there are no better offers on auction day. Sound like a good deal?

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Homes.co.nz reckoned it was worth 1.72M yet it got 2.1M???? Boycott homes.co until they put our prices back up I say. I noticed a lot of properties sold for over 200K above the estimate.

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The new rating valuations,irrespective of their validity will provide temporary solace. Homes.co did appear to take a rather large cleaver to its updated estimates.

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Homes.co.nz have been calculating the property prices sold outside of auctions. Prices are dropping to meet the Kiwi market.

Plus TradeMe is at 10985 listings for Auckland and climbing.

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If I was panic selling I would bring my auction forward.

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Can you mow my lawn please.

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Not on this rainy day! It's the rain I've been waiting for since I just emptied 2 large bags of lawn fertiliser yesterday on my kikuyu. The rain will provide a real good soaking and it will look fabulous next week for a big occasion planned (...no, I'm not selling LOL!!)

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Don't over fert your lawn bro!!!!It'll become dependant on it!!!Once every 3 months and not too much.Then you won't be mowing it every four days and it'll look great!!!

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Hi DGZ,

I wonder if you'd kindly slip me a couple of tickets to the big occasion you've got planned for next week.

I'd love to witness your elevation to sainthood.

TTP

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Don't think it'll be kiwis and ozzys panic buying.it'll be the ones that won't be able to buy next year.prices flat or declining means wait and see what happens for the prudent.

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bw - It's like panicking to get into the paddock at the slaughterhouse before the gate shuts.....Well said bw and I think very true. If this "panic buying thing were really true then real estate is still a one way bet to such people. Knives really do fall sometimes lol! Withdrawal of QE is coming to town and it's time to pay the Piper!

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Double-GZ aka Zachary Smith

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john wheeler aka BS merchant.

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Toothlesspoint aka ecobird... corrupt landlord who wants to bludge all your money when renting out his cold and damp shit boxes. If they complain he’ll scream from on high, they are “doom and gloomers!” Then raise their rent, telling everyone, “they like it!”

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My folks' house in one of the less desirable North Shore suburbs just went conditional today and they got just a whisker less than they were asking.

Here's something interesting from the open home viewings. Every single person of the 20+ groups who viewed the property was Chinese-born. No-one Kiwi born amongst them. Most have Kiwi citizenship....but ALL were born in China. So when we hear this 3% of buyers being foreigners, it *might* technically be true. But if you were to ask how many buyers in recent years in Auckland are "new Kiwis" i.e. granted citizenship in recent years, then that might explain the 3% figure to some extent.

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PaulO, interesting information and matches my interpretation of the situation. I have never seen an overseas bidder win an auction although agents often appear to be on the phone to them. I don't think I have ever seen them even make a bid. Just playing big shots and wasting people's time. Most buyers are residents or citizens.
How did your folks house price compare with the homes.co.nz estimate?

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I'm quite surprised to see higher clearance rates

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Higher clearance rates - Barfoots must be envious!

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Values that can only grow?? https://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-for-sale/auctio…
Surely this is misleading and deceptive conduct unless they can guarantee a capital gain.

Also had a quick look at TM Auckland listings, 10,977. My prediction of 11,000 by Monday looks like it will come to fruition.

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Real Estate spin is like hamburger photos, everybody knows they embellish so it’s ok.

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Looks like a pretty cool apartment and at an affordable price.

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Why so cheap?

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Maybe leaky??

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It's a lease-hold so you don't own the land and you pay the annual "ground rent" which is subject to review every seven or 21 years, depending on the lease.

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So you lease the land?what sort of yield would you get for that

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IMHO if that apartment is freehold it would fetch around 600k-700k at that location. I have never owned an apartment so maybe Zach has a better idea? My rough guesstimate would be around 4% yield.

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We need a resident apartment expert.

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Auckland must be full of them - surely.

Apartments pop up so often in Auckland I think of them as a breed of toadstool.

Note also, that because apartments are selling more than houses in Auckland these days, the average price (of houses and apartments combined) is being pulled down.

So really, the ACTUAL price drops of recent aren't nearly as great as the reported figures. Of course, most people here don't want to know that......

TTP

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TTP

Silence is better than unmeaning words

- Pythagoras

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This person here is still waiting for you to present some evidence to back up what you keep saying

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Have to say it again just incase you miss it DGZ.Don't over fert your lawns.Ha Ha

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I paid $1262500 for a block in Cambridge that rents out for $2405.come down south for some yield.and if your lucky you'll get growth over time!!!

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What have prices on free hold apartments been doing.where do you see them going in short term?1 to 2 years?any "bargains"

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Holy shit man that's no bargain!!!haha

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(Anticipated reply) "That's Bernard Hickey. He was wrong in 2007 and is just as wrong today"

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On Property Investor Forums the panic is setting in;

"I’m Nervous…. No I’m Scared"

(and the person posting that OP is a property accountant)

https://www.propertytalk.com/forum/showthread.php?42321-I%92m-Nervous%8…

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(From another article on there...it's a quiet rainy arvo here!)

Graeme: So, you mean you want me to tell you what prices will be in five years time, compared to what they are now?
Investor: Yes please, that is what I am after.
Graeme: I have no idea what prices will be in five years time, two years time, or even this time next year. I would only be guessing, as would anybody else you ask. In fact, this is one of the major reasons why people lose money investing in property; they go into it for the wrong reasons, hoping that the properties they buy always go up in value. Then when they don’t go up, or they drop in value, they get despondent and sell. I have written a book about real estate investment that explains about this. You would be better to read it before doing anything else, especially if you are investing money for other people. Would you like a copy to read?
Investor: No, I don’t want to read a book; I just want to invest some money in real estate because I’ve been told it’s a good investment.

I was at first stunned by what this guy was wanting, but on reflection, realised there are probably many other investors just like him. They hear real estate values are going up, so they rush in to buy something without any knowledge of what they are doing. I don’t ever try to predict what is going to happen in the market, but if I were to guess what will happen, it would be that the market will start to change soon, especially when people like this are starting to become real estate investors.

https://www.propertytalk.com/forum/showthread.php?38598-Articles-Graeme…

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Interesting read indeed!

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Well I'm off to watch Tonga v Samoa in thugby league world cup in the tron!!!!see yas on the other side

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Hmmm...
Despite challenging conditions, residential prices increase across NZ
https://www.reinz.co.nz/Media/Default/Statistic%20Documents/2017/Reside…

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"singin in the rain" in .pdf format!

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