You have to wonder if Treasury ever gets tired of reminding successive governments they will eventually run out of money to pay for pensions and healthcare if they don’t make some policy changes.
That was the key message of the economic agency’s Long-Term Fiscal Statement released earlier this week — but also of the one it released four years ago, and eight years ago, and 12 years ago, right back to 2006.
It didn't get that much attention this year as we had heard it all before and were quite busy Googling ‘Anna Breman’ and ‘how to pronounce Riksbank’.
Unsustainable fiscal policy is like putting off doing the dishes. It’s okay for a while, then you’re eating cereal out of a coffee mug and posting a ‘hazardous materials’ sign over the sink.
In a speech on Wednesday, Treasury Secretary Iain Rennie said policymakers don’t have to solve 40 years of forecast problems in “one fell swoop” but the available fixes would get fewer and harder over time.
Policy changes would be forced on governments as overseas investors demanded higher risk premiums on government bonds, pushing up debt costs and slowing the wider economy.
“We're certainly not saying, for 40 years it's going to be fine and then Armageddon … You’d see a set of adjustments essentially being forced on the economy,” Rennie said.
He couldn’t say exactly when or what would happen but some sort of gradual “adjustment pressures” would emerge over the next ten years if no fiscal policy changes were made.
That’s only two and a half Long-Term Fiscal Statements (LTFS) away.
Not so distant future
Fiscal pressures are starting to stray into medium-term territory. Already net (of tax) contributions to the Super Fund have stopped and actual withdrawals to pay pensions are set to start around 2030.
The problem, if you don’t remember from previous editions, is that an aging population is pushing up the cost of providing universal superannuation and healthcare. In 1960, there were seven workers per retiree. Now there are four and soon there will be just two.
If policies are left unchanged, Government spending per person will rise from $18,300 today to $35,900 in 2065 (not counting inflation). Tax revenue would not nearly keep up and debt would explode to 200% of gross domestic product.
Don’t act all surprised, we know all this already. The question is what to do about it?
There are three main dishes on the menu for policymakers to choose from, and likely we’ll need a mix of all three. Politics is the business of negotiating how much of each to order for the table to share — a fraught decision at the best of times.
Treasury’s à la carte menu includes: superannuation and Kiwisaver reform, broad Crown spending cuts and user-pays healthcare, or (chef’s speciality) increased taxes.
Choosing any single option would be uncomfortable. Paying for it purely out of income taxes would require the average rate to rise from 21% to 32%. Or GST would need to be set at 32%.
Relying only on spending cuts would force expenditure on everything other than healthcare and pensions to be slashed from 13% of GDP to just 5% in 2065, and then continue to fall.
Pensions could be indexed to inflation (like all other welfare benefits) instead of wages, the age of entitlement could be gradually raised to 72, or it could be means-tested at a “relatively low level” of income.
Slow and steady keeps the peace
Treasury modelled a hypothetical scenario in which no corrections were made to policy until 2065, just to demonstrate the costs of drastic policy changes. It found each New Zealander’s average income would be $6,800 lower by 2066, with the gap widening each year.
Not only is it more expensive, it also changes which generation pays the cost.
“Our modeling suggests if we delay tax increases to 2066, everyone born before 2030 is better off, but people born afterwards end up paying significantly higher taxes over their lifetimes and have lower after-tax pensions,” it wrote.
Treasury didn’t model the economic impact of one million 15-to-36 year-olds rioting in the streets on July 1, 2066 (when their tax rate jumps 70% overnight) but let's assume it would be net negative.
The economic policy chefs would likely prefer superannuation reform to be the bulk of our fiscal sustainability order. The economic and generational impacts of various options took up more space in the document than taxes or spending cut suggestions.
But it is ultimately up to us voters, and it's still a political stalemate.
National and Act want to raise the age of eligibility, the Green Party and Te Pāti Māori want to raise taxes to keep it 65 or lower, Labour hopes to come up with an unspecified savings plan, while NZ First seems okay with Armageddon.
Even these proposals are each insufficient on their own, and consensus will likely converge on raising the eligibility age somewhat and transitioning to a partially self-funded retirement.
The age will surely rise because people are retiring later, anyway. As lifespans lengthen so does the time spent in the labour force. In 1993, just 10% of people aged 65-69 had a job, today it is 49%. Even 27% of those aged 70-74 have jobs these days.
Perhaps not everyone can continue to work (people with physical jobs struggle) but obviously half the population can and chooses to do so. That number should rise further if health and longevity continues to improve.
As for self-funding retirement, that is what Kiwisaver was set up to do. Current settings are a long way from being able to deliver on that, but National and Labour have both signalled they plan to supercharge the scheme.
The natural end result will be that well-off people will be asked to cover for a larger share of their own retirement income. Perhaps superannuation will remain universal but paid at a lower rate, for example.
Expect this debate to feature heavily in the next few elections, as crunch time is coming.
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I thought it was treasury that kept saying NZ super was affordable?
If people think the drain to Aussie is a problem now, imagine what will happen when NZ has 32% GST to pay for the oldies compared to the Aussies that are saving for it in advance. What happens if NZ only has pensioners left?
The snake has started to eat its tail
Invest in Ryman and Summerset? :-(
“Our modeling suggests if we delay tax increases to 2066, everyone born before 2030 is better off, but people born afterwards end up paying significantly higher taxes over their lifetimes and have lower after-tax pensions,” it wrote.
Everyone currently unborn (and incapable of voting until the mid 2040s) is why it will continue to be ignored for the foreseeable.....more importantly addressing a population strategy will also be ignored. Providing a pension is not the problem....having the needed goods/services for it to purchase will be.
Seriously, what is wrong with Treasury? They base their models on some kind of 'we have to tax first to spend second' nonsense, and then model debt costs as if bond interest rates move with supply and demand for bonds. It's completely unserious analysis. Their long-term forecasts have been waaaaay out, all the time, like forever, on everything, yet they see fit to use those same forecasts to advise Ministers on serious policy issues.
My best guess is lack of skin in the game distorts incentives. I've seen it in other modeling departments - change your model and it does worse? Bad for your career. Change your model and it does better? At best neutral for your career, as people ask why you didn't get it right first time. The safe play is to stand behind whatever you're already doing and keep claiming it's the best possible.
Johnny, I generally respect the quality of your comments on this forum. I suspect you know a fair bit more about this topic than me .
Are you disputing the general thrust of Treasury's argument (that we need to change how we do things) or the remedies that they are proposing?
I suspect this may reflect JFoes objection
Hmm, that guy is talking about govt borrowing to fund essential infrastructure but Treasury is asking how we fund our daily costs (as a country)?
What he's is saying is that Treasury use a static model of the real economy and project this unchanging and unresponsive model 40 years into the future. In the real world things are dynamic - economies, governments adjust and adapt as needed to different circumstances over time.
The evidence is there in the economic data over the last 100 years - things all go in cycles that interweave - GDP, employment, inflation, taxes, government spending, credit growth, government debt - up and down over time all interacting and influencing each other in complex and unpredictable ways.
Through it all reserve banks and governments have maintained overall stability in prices and employment using fiscal and monetary policy (that includes the reserve bank buying government bonds to maintain financial liquidity). There are fluctuations but these are not extreme.
Thank you, for that explanation. I'm getting my head around it now.
Is Treasury not saying that the time for adaption, to be dynamic, is sooner rather than later? To take action while we still have options available, rather than waiting until our choices have reduced?
I don't know what Treasury are doing. Scaremongering maybe?
I think they are focused on the wrong things and their models and forecasts are useless (they don't even include private debt, for example).
It is our whole economy that is out of balance - but they focus on govt spending and irrelevant indicators.
We are the only advanced economy with persistent trade / current account deficits and a Govt with a positive net financial worth. This position is only possible because we have allowed our economy to be fuelled by private debt.
We are a vassal state. The Govt and the domestic private sector charge into debt to pay tribute to onshore and offshore rentiers.
Our business sector balance sheet is unsustainable - financial liabilities are over 350% of GDP - the highest in the OECD. A return has to be paid on those liabilities (shares, loans, equity etc) so our businesses, too, have become vehicles for the rapid transfer of any available income from workers to the rich, who buy more rent collecting assets, and on we go.
Our resource use is a disgrace - we are destroying our soil and fresh water to send milk powder and logs to the Chinese.
Our health and education systems are falling behind rapidly - overrun by the impact of decades of poverty, inequality, and laissezfaire economic and social policy.
But, what do Treasury focus on? What are we going to cut to pay for public pensions, which, at 5% of GDP, are well under half the Govt expenditure in many European states.
"We are a vassal state. The Govt and the domestic private sector charge into debt to pay tribute to onshore and offshore rentiers.'
The key point of the linked video
Indeed. I can only handle Richard in short bursts.
Lol....try Richard and Steve (Keen) together....really hard.
Some coordinated fiscal policy that isn't based in magical thinking would be useful, but it doesn't seem to be emerging from any party.
What's really disconcerting is that none of them even want to talk about it. Is it becasue it might have standards to be held to, is it too complex for their ideologues to cope with the conflict between data and doctrine, is it that it might require cooperation across party lines...?
Why are we so allergic to planning?
They are doing this as they know that current retirees have the highest turnout rate to vote than any of the following generations, and still hold serious voting power. They wish to pander to the status quo until they pass and become less of a voter base, and the public demand change. If only the public demanded this sooner than later.
Retired Kiwis are less biased than young ones. I've received Super for 11 years but I'll vote for both a increase in the age of entitlement and a (modest) reduction in the amount received. Whatever the politicians do is unlikely to affect me but I think about my children and grandchildren and their future and would vote accordingly.
singautim,
Retired Kiwis are less biased than young ones. Sadly, I think you are wrong. John Key-very cynically- recently said that this generation while saying how awful it is that their grandchildren are struggling to buy a house to live in, secretly we want our houses to keep rising in value.
I'm 80 and while certainly some like you do care, I believe that all too many quietly do want their property value to keep rising. Psychologists call this cognitive dissonance.
The instinct is to think "wow it is great - owning my house makes me a millionaire". But then I think about my six children - one is an owner occupier of a small apartment in a French city, one owns an apartment in Auckland CBD which is currently worth less than her mortgage and the rental income doesn't cover her outgoings, the other four are renting. At their age I owned; even my brother who was a railway signalman with wife and two young kids owned is own house. So I'm happy that I'm no longer a property millionaire - prices are going in the right direction -> down.
We may be biased, but we are less biased than other ages, just give us a reasonable argument. The other problem with us elderly folk is we are highly skeptical of promises - we have seen them before.
"Treasury didn’t model the economic impact of one million 15-to-36 year-olds rioting in the streets on July 1, 2066 (when their tax rate jumps 70% overnight) but let's assume it would be net negative."
Gotta love a bit of dry humor.
'As lifespans lengthen so does the time spent in the labour force. In 1993, just 10% of people aged 65-69 had a job, today it is 49%. Even 27% of those aged 70-74 have jobs these days. Perhaps not everyone can continue to work (people with physical jobs struggle) but obviously half the population can and chooses to do so. That number should rise further if health and longevity continues to improve.'
The obvious (though avoided) answer to help lower the cost of NZ Superannuation is to introduce some form of means testing: keep NZ Super universally available, but recognise that it is a social welfare benefit for those who need it, by clipping the feathers of those who don't:
https:/www.auckland.ac.nz/assets/business/PIE%20WP%20%202025%20NZS%20as%20basi…
The difficulty with proposing compulsory KiwiSaver as the miracle cure for a future unaffordable NZ Super is that it guarantees to perpetuate into retirement the gulf been haves and have-nots: those who have secure employment for 40 years and contribute to their private KiwiSaver funds will reap the rewards; the rest, the precariat, will retire in poverty.
So why not, instead of compulsory KiwiSaver contributions, increase general taxation to put that same money into the NZ Superannuation Fund for the good of all, and use it to build subsidised retirement housing, and provide free health care?
This is a moral choice. What kind of society do we want?
"That number should rise further if health and longevity continues to improve.'"
That would appear to be a dubious assumption given the increasing constraint on healthcare, infrastructure and increasing inequality.
And is that number of employed over 65 increasing because they have to work rather than want to?
Hysteria as economic analysis. I think Treasury are scaremongering and offer few real-world insights into an unknown future.
Pensions being pushed out to 70 not far away.
When all the workers have fled west for a better deal, the only thing left to generate tax will be a land tax. Otherwise NZ is broke.
the only thing left to generate tax will be a land tax
Rates levied by Central Government instead of by Local Government?
Phase out National Super completely. Phase in a muscular universal Kiwisaver.
It will take 30 years to finalise the tail, but we would see significant benefit very soon. So let's start now.
And no tax on Kiwisaver at all None at entry, during or exit. It's not a standard investment. It's a social protection instrument.
and the handicapped, those working parttime while caring for relatives, those on low and irregular pay - they face poverty in retirement while the retired computer technicians (myself) lord it over them. Universal education and universal medicine and universal pension. It's a fair go.
What about those with large Kiwisaver at retirement who cash it up and spend it all at the casino - do they get a benefit or do we steop over them as they starve in the street.
DP
Not hard to sort those issues singautim with just a little think. "Do try it"
Or ignore the big issue which is on the present course National Super will break - just break - there will be none. Not that far away.
If there is no National Super in NZ (not far away) what do you think will happen to asset prices and the NZD?
Lifestyle commentator Verity Johnson at Stuff has a better grasp of macroeconomics than nearly every NZ economist.
"So here’s some things to know.
We already had tight monetary policy when National came to power in 2023 (eg. high interest rates, set by the reserve bank trying to curb Labour era inflation.)
But National chose that moment to introduce super tight fiscal policy too (think tax and the stuff tax pays for). And these two were way tighter than what other countries were doing, despite us having comparatively smaller debt.
There were also huge cut backs on spending on big public stuff like infrastructure, schools, water, hospitals etc.
That scared the pants off a lot of people. And then we had a massive round of job cuts to the public sector. That scared the remaining pants off everyone else. (Bearing in mind that cities like Auckland were already on their knees after an eviscerating 2020 - 2024.)"
The real-world Keynesian dynamics of an economy explained by a millennial. I have hope for the future.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360836220/nicola-willis-talks-us-were-t…
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