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Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment Simon Upton says there are good reasons to allow forestry offsets for methane rather than for fossil fuels

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Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment Simon Upton says there are good reasons to allow forestry offsets for methane rather than for fossil fuels
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Simon Upton, in his role as Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment, has produced a new ‘Note’ for Parliament exploring the possibilities of using carbon sequestration from forestry to offset methane emissions. It is an interesting and some might say provocative paper. Here I present and discuss just some of the big issues that he raises.

First, some explanation about Simon Upton and where he fits into the parliamentary scene.

Simon Upton was a Member of Parliament for close on 20 years and a Minister in the Bolger and Shipley Cabinets, including more than six years as Minister for the Environment. Then he headed overseas working for the OECD. Then in 2017 he was appointed in the last year of the National Government to an initial five-year term as Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment.

In that current role, Upton reports to Parliament itself and not to any Minister. This distinction is important because his role is intended to be non-political. In this role, he has the freedom to roam widely, exploring issues he thinks are of fundamental importance, without ministerial direction.

The first audience for his reports is the Members of Parliament of all political parties.  This means there is a need to write for people who have no science training but who, one hopes, are keen to get to the essence of issues that are important to New Zealand’s future.

This particular ‘note’ (as he calls it) makes no recommendations. Instead, the focus is on educating people as to the issues. The terminology of a ‘note’ is purposeful and relates to the idea that it is intended to inform and generate debate rather than to make specific recommendations. Despite the terminology suggesting it might be a short document, it is still 49 pages long and it is not an easy read.

There is also a shorter version of nine pages, but readers of the short version should be cautious of thinking they have the issues nailed down.

I have a particular interest in this note in that I was one of three people who were invited to review an earlier draft. As external reviewers, our task was to identify weaknesses and make constructive suggestions for improvement, and our names are publicly acknowledged at the start of the note. But none of us had responsibility for the final content. It is Upton’s paper, supported by his internal professional team.

Here I start by quoting the first two introductory paragraphs where Upton puts forward a fundamental philosophical issue that others have failed to address.

"New Zealand’s emissions reduction targets for 2050 were enshrined in legislation in 2019. When setting these targets, the Government decided that forestry offsets would be counted towards the target for fossil carbon dioxide and other long-lived greenhouse gases (net zero by 2050), but not the emissions reduction targets for biogenic methane (a 10% reduction by 2030 and a 24–47% reduction by 2050, relative to the 2017 level). The rationale behind the important and far-reaching decision to have a net target for long-lived greenhouse gases but a gross target for biogenic methane was never satisfactorily explained.”

“Why should emitters of carbon dioxide in the fossil-fuel-based economy have access to New Zealand’s limited supply of forestry offsets to assist them in meeting their emissions reduction target, but not emitters of livestock methane in the land-based economy?”

A key point here is that the 2050 net zero for carbon dioxide still allows a large volume of carbon dioxide emissions to be emitted.   Further on in the report (p19), Upton points out that: “In the Climate Change Commission’s ‘current policy reference’ scenario, gross carbon dioxide emissions are reduced by 11% by 2030 and 37% by 2050.”

This illustrates that the ‘net zero’ figure bandied about so much by various politicians and the media for carbon dioxide only sounds impressive because sequestration from forests is assumed to offset all of the very substantial remaining carbon dioxide emissions, primarily from the energy and transport sectors. In contrast, the lack of offsets available for methane makes the methane figure look bad in comparison.

 The alternative perspective that Upton has been putting forward, both here and previously in 2019 in a 189-page report called ‘Farms, forestry and fossil fuels’, is that the land-based economy should be considered as an entity. Given that forestry and farming compete for the same land, there is a logic to that. In contrast, it seems unreasonable that the rest of the community should be able to offset its emissions by singling out forestry from the overall land-based economy, to make it look good in relative terms.

Upton then writes in the note about the contribution of New Zealand agricultural emissions to global warming. He makes the point that the best estimates – which, I add here, does not necessarily mean they are correct, because there are lots of uncertainties – are that New Zealand’s historical agricultural emissions have added 0.0015 degrees Centigrade to the current global climate.

At one level this figure seems totally trivial, but that is influenced by the world being big but New Zealand being small. New Zealand also makes up less than 0.1% of the world’s population, and on a per capita basis our emissions are certainly not small.  

Upton then points out that even if methane emissions decrease, with this leading in time to a reduction in the level of agriculturally-sourced methane in the atmosphere, there would still be ongoing warming effects due to lags in the temperature response function. 

In the second part of the paper, Upton explores how much forestry would be needed to take the total emissions from the land-based sector, from both short-term and long-term gases, down to net zero. The answers are daunting. But before discussing that, it is important to acknowledge an assumption made by Upton that all of the new forests will be approximately 28-year production forests. I will return to that assumption later.

Upton looks at the net-zero question using two different metrics, both focusing on 2050 as the initial target date. The first is the GWP100 measure of emissions which is the official international method used for comparing short and long-lived gases. The second measure focuses on the amount of further warming, which is not the same as the level of emissions, to ensure that the land-based sector is not adding to warming after 2050. That second analysis uses the principles that underpin the alternative GWP* metric.

Using the GWP100 measure, Upton reports that New Zealand would need to plant approximately four million hectares of new pine forests progressively over the next 100 years to balance current methane emissions. Using a warming metric based on principles set out in the alternative GWP* metric, then New Zealand would need to plant slightly less at 3.9 million hectares, but with all of this occurring by 2050 and none thereafter.

Not surprisingly, Upton then concludes in his final paragraph as follows: “This work shows that very large areas of forest would need to be planted to make any significant dent in the marginal warming effect of New Zealand’s livestock methane emissions. For that reason, if forest planting were to be used to offset livestock methane, it would have to be in addition to – not instead of – reducing national gross emissions of biogenic methane by 24–47% by 2050. We cannot simply plant our way out of this problem.

My own conclusion is somewhat different. This is because Upton’s starting point has been to assume production forestry with approximately 28-year rotations, for which the average sequestration over multiple cycles is equivalent to only 16 years of initial growth. This short-rotation assumption leads inevitably to his results and conclusion.

The conclusion would be different using long-rotation forests or so-called permanent exotic forests, possibly transitioning eventually to native forests.  For example, with permanent forests the sequestered carbon can be five times that of the average under short-rotation forests. Accordingly, his conclusion should have been that we cannot plant our way out of this problem with short-rotation forests.

My second conclusion reflects Upton’s long-held perspective that there is a logic associated with using forestry to balance emissions within the land-based sector instead of as a get-out-of-jail card for the energy and transport sectors. If we accept that proposition, which has considerable merit and is worthy of consideration, then there is a lot more analysis needed as to alternative pathways forward and their effects on all sectors of the economy. I hope that Simon Upton takes up those challenges.

In seeking out those alternative pathways, we should never forget that more than 80 percent of New Zealand’s merchandise exports derive from the primary industries, and approximately half of those total exports derive from methane-emitting ruminants. Without vibrant export industries, as a nation we are in big trouble.


*Keith Woodford was Professor of Farm Management and Agribusiness at Lincoln University for 15 years through to 2015. He is now Principal Consultant at AgriFood Systems Ltd. You can contact him directly here.

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KW I concur that your second conclusion has considerable merit - good luck getting that accepted by the politicians and other lobby groups and your mana is much greater than mine  - but I will lobby the ACT party on everyone's behalf

Personally I think that we should be taking an NZ inc. approach and our decisions as a country to set aside Reserves and National Parks that remain as carbon sinks should also be factored into our emissions profile. This could reduce the hysteria related to pine forests and provide sensible timeframes to continually improve what we do    

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Does the ACT party now accept the science of AGW? Judging by a lot of comments I read from party rank and file, they still seem to be struggling to accept basic tenets of high school science. 

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I am pretty sure that the basic tenets of high school science are accepted

Always challenge dogma,  always test your hypothesis

Oh and CO2 is very necessary for plant growth -  and high school science says that without photosynthesis and plant growth we are all doomed and very quickly - basic tenets 

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Bollocks comment.

CO2 that WAS ABOVE GROUND THIS LAST FEW MILLION YEARS is important for plant growth. That's because plants, like us, have evolved for that condition.

We are throwing orders-of-magnitude MORE carbon from underground, into the above ground arena.

There is NO justification for that.

Beyond small-thinking self-justification, of course....

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Grattaway,

With that comment, you very clearly label yourself as a climate change denier. Of course CO2 is necessary for plant growth, just as oxygen is necessary for human life. BUT, too much oxygen is harmful as is too much CO2. 

If you are typical of ACT supporters and i suspect you are, then I wouldn't touch them with the proverbial bargepole.

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they're too busy blowing any dog whistle they can think up . totally irresponsible. 

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How does this account for the short term nature of methane? 

I’ve always been unclear on the chemistry. Methane has a relatively short half life in the atmosphere right but it decays to create CO2? How much CO2 results from the decay of methane?

I’d be interested to see whether the offset formula targets removing the resulting carbon - ie how many trees do we need to sequester that much carbon or whether it tries to counteract some kind of energy budget in terms of the net heating effect.

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Ruminant methane doesn't create any new CO2, it's a cycle that starts with plants removing CO2 from the atmosphere.

The warming effect is from methane formed from the CO2 by microbes that live in the rumen. The methane has a stronger warming effect than CO2. If it wasn't for that, ruminants would be carbon neutral.

Rather than tree planting, reducing methane output with feed additives, different forages and/or selective breeding low methane emitting animals seems to be a better solution.

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Yeah but that warming is temporary. If the only concern is the warming from the methane stage that will be gone. The earth doesn’t store heat, global warming is the process of changing how much energy from the sun is retained, it’s not some compounding thermostat.

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The methane metrics take account of the fact that the carbon in  biogenic methane comes from CO2 and returns to CO2 at the end of the cycle. So there is no net increase in CO2. 
GWP100 measures the average warming effect of an emitted molecule over a 100 year period taking into account the rate of decay.  GWP* is more complicated to explain in just a few sentences.  Both take account of the short-life of methane relative to CO2 but do so in different ways.
KeithW

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Thank you.

But if you there is no net increase in CO2, just a temporary increase in methane, which presumably is now a constant, that raises questions about what we are offsetting.

If we are responsible for a constant level of methane (since presumably our animal numbers have plateaued/are declining). So therefore we need a constant number of trees to offset that degree of warming.

Still, the maths and physics deserve a lot of scrutiny because if you are talking about counteracting warming (as opposed to offsetting carbon), there is a lot more uncertainty about decisions with respect to temperature than there is on counting carbon. 

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Methane is CH4, so one CO2 molecule possible in isolation. But it's part of a system - what do the H4 turn into, and where does the O2 come from? Free oxygen. I too would like to know the answer

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I wish any politician that advocates increasing the NZ population to help 'growth' would tell us how much less carbon emissions is therefore allocated to current citizens, and the cost to each of us of that. 

Our population has increased 25% over the last couple of decades, so all kiwis would all have to cut back an extra 20% on everything we individually do (in addition to other reductions) to balance the carbon reduction commitment NZ has made. eg to cut an extra 20% off personal transport usage likely means cutting all transport for recreation and entertainment. Is that what people want? 

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Yes, you are correct in saying that our targets are for the country and not per person. So, the more people there are then there are less emissions per capita within this total. 

KeithW

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I have never heard any politician recite any downside impacts of population growth? Either they are too ignorant to understand the concept of "finite", or too spineless to break from herd mentality. On a resource depleting planet an increase in population actually means the share to individuals decreases faster than population increases.

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Please explain what is a long-rotation exotic forest transitioning eventually to a native forest? Natives will not grow through a cypress canopy. They will grow under a radiata canopy but only if the radiata is progressively removed by poisoning (felling will destroy the new natives). This suggestion would be a very labour intensive very high cost model. Suggestion - just plant natives, or if the seed source is good enough let it revert to native itself?

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It is said that a pine forest will revert to native in 150 years if there is a nearby seed source for birds to carry. Planting pines speeds up carbon sequestration compared to letting the land revert to scrub then native forest. 

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You don’t have to wait this long - I have plenty of healthy natives under 15 year old radiata canopy however you have to remove the pine one way or another or you have a perpetual wilding pine seed problem. Sequestration is one issue, we must also consider the need for diversified ecology which under a monoculture of pines is somewhat limited

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Surely there are even better options.  What about much better woods than pine.  High value oak, walnut, kauri, rimu.  Even fast growing eucalyptus and macrocapa give better timbers than pine.  Pine is a horrible weak nasty rot prone timber. 

Does anybody account for the methane when the slash rots.

I seem to remember that the french have a great system that has been in place for a very long time.  You can cut down any trees that you like, but you must replant two to replace it.  As they have a lot of oaks, what a wonderful, sustainable source of great timber.  Oak 4 x2's? 

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This is a good report on several levels.

It explains and details the difference between the 2 GWP methods - the end result is you end up at much the same answer but in different ways. However you want to cut it, if you use trees there is a large area needed. I note the deathly silence from many of the Ag pressure groups now this has been quantified. Also the Grand Parenting flavour of GWP* could/will cause some international problems.

It does demonstrate that forests will not solve the issue for Ag or Fossil fuels. They will help and like it or not we will need a lot more than we think as the fact is no one wants to change much. I agree that Ag should be able to use trees for offsets - Im still not sure why this can't occur and if allowed would seem a lot fairer to the Ag sector.

I cant see AG getting all the trees as the energy sector is so heavily invested. Don't forget we are ALL fossil fuel emitters as well.

It highlights that shelterbelt and small planting wont do anything in the big picture. Native wont either - we need native but thats a long game 2040 and beyond. We have to hit some numbers well before that and exotics are the only tool.

If you want less forest area permanent exotic is the only way to do that - period. They just need to be in the right place but the problem there is the land that needs to be put into this is owned by farmers who cant see any need too - highly eroding land mainly in NI hill country.

I feel Simon Upton wanted to say - " we need to plant a lot more trees" - even say 5% for methane = 350,000ha or much less if permanent but thats not a popular thing to say.

I think James Shaw has also realised that buying offsets overseas is a dead end - where will they come from? everyone else wants them as well?. His comments in the last month has really moved to we need more forests but how?

Interesting times - watch out for a HWEN announcement in the next week or so to start more discussion.

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I think James Shaw has also realised that buying offsets overseas is a dead end - where will they come from? everyone else wants them as well?. His comments in the last month has really moved to we need more forests but how?

I can't emphasise this bit enough. There's going to be a whole world needing supply of credits, and sod-all authentic surplus credits available. We certainly don't want to be among the (mostly Anglo/Euro) countries that are competing to buy them. Far, far better to be in a position to sell them.

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"There's going to be a whole world needing supply of credits". Yeah right, China, India, Africa have higher priorities than try to change the climate back to the Little Ice Age through taxation and virtue signalling.

Why would you plant trees in NZ for carbon credits? Buy some land in Brazil and get triple the growth rate. True believer NZ should stick to growing the lowest CO2 footprint food on it's farm land and leave tree growing to parts of the world better suited.

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The Problem is finding land to do that. There’s a perception that there’s lot of empty land in Asia etc to plant. There isn’t in fact they are struggling to find enough for themselves. Exporting this solution won’t work.

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Plenty of projects out there for under $10/tonne. Hey throw in another $10/tonne to pay you to oversee it for the NZ fuel user. Still a long way off $85/tonne. There is a lot of empty land in Asia - and Brazil. Pay $20/tonne for carbon virtue signaling and plenty of land will be freed up for you.

At $20/tonne we could be net zero tomorrow for $1.2 billion per annum. That would also spare us all the cycle lane, EV, eat bugs and general social engineering bullshit. What's not to like?

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Any project providing credits at $10 per tonne is going to be shonky. Jack Lumber is correct. I have worked in more than 20 countries across the developing world and I can assure you that land is scarce all over the world.
KeithW

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4 million hectares is 200km x 200km. It doesn't sound massive, but if you map out the area on a map, it is roughly equivalent to the area contained between Chch, Dunedin and the Southern Apls, or for the Nth Island, roughly all the land containing New Plymouth to Whangnui and eastwards to the ranges running north from Palmy.

Taking this much land out of grazing and into forestry will also directly lead to a big reduction in ruminant stocking, so the potential 'fix' is a hammer hitting two nails at once.

Why though do we aim to merely address our own emissions and not tackle the balance of emissions from other countries that will fail to take any heed? I imagine much of Afrfica and Brazil will be sluggish to reverse their direction, and Russia will likely benefit from a warmer world melting their chilly lands while also causing significant storm disruption to their more equatorial foes.

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Good question pinetreez, maybe Keith will know if NZ are making any preparations for what I think is the most likely outcome of every last drop of oil being brought above ground and added to the carbon cycle. The world is not cohesive enough to prevent that happening, and wars won't be won by countries not using fossil fuels.

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What would be the reduction in temperature if all  NZ pasture was planted in trees? Forestry consultants are doing the best to convince me to plant my uncultivated pasture into trees. Even they arent convinced on the whole scheme but hey the money appears to be great!  To me its like the old saying, "if it sounds too good to be true it probably is"

 

What is your thoughts on what has? happened with the aussie carbon tax falling to bits? Is it true they are removing eculips and converting back to pasture?

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I'm heading toward the opinion that bio- methane is or should be irrelevant. If we cut the gross CO2 emissions, due to agri's reliance on FF for transport and manufacturing there will be an automatic drop in livestock numbers.

But as there is no will to drop gross carbon emissions I guess the problem remains.

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The problem is simple: fossil energy is carbon, stored underground. What Keith forgets to mention, is that food production is orders-of-magnitude dependent on said fossil carbon (it's the 2nd Law, really; energy out can only happen if there was energy in)

That carbon represents millions of years of sun-drenched acres.

We are attempting to offset that carbon - and food-production wouldn't have a methane impact if it wasn't underwritten by fossil carbon - by sequestering using REAL-TIME acres. There aren't enough. Period.

Upton is one of the smartest cookies to ever grace Parliament, and he's knocking on the door here. This is the discussion we should have had about 1970. But better now than never.

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By far and away the biggest energy input into food production is sunshine not fossil fuels

Oh and another big input is CO2

But hey lest design a bunch of control rules that ignore both

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Deflection. Noted.

It's many calories of Fossil energy, to one calorie of food.

That's the major problem. Without fossil energy applied to AG, half the global population

won't be here any longer.

Ever heard of Haber Bosch? Fossil energy into food.

Maybe we could eat spin? You'd make a killing.

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Without fossil energy applied to AG, half the global population

won't be here any longer.

 

This fact is based entirely on our choice. It is our unwillingness to progress and the reinforcement of capitalistic systems which drives an exploitative and destructive cycle.

There is no evidence that we MUST turn fossil fuels into food to sustain the global population.

In fact, a lot of evidence suggests there is plenty to eat for all of us in a system that utilises regenerative permaculture and healthy lifestyle choices.

The amount of plunder and wastage we're acustomed to is mind-boggling and many of us are too blind to realise it.

Why do we burn ancient forrests down to clear land for cows? (happening in Amazonas right now, NZ has cleared 50% of it's native forrest this way)

Why throw away an entire shark just to take its fins?

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"“Why should emitters of carbon dioxide in the fossil-fuel-based economy have access to New Zealand’s limited supply of forestry offsets to assist them in meeting their emissions reduction target, but not emitters of livestock methane in the land-based economy?”

Because livestock emitters have not paid any tax for emissions , and are proposing to start at 5% . 

 

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Given productivity increases in the past 30 odd years NZ ruminants are not adding to global warming (TM).

"Even more strikingly, if an individual herd’s methane emissions are falling by one third of one percent per year (that’s 7/2100, so the two terms cancel out) – which the farmers I met seemed confident could be achieved with a combination of good husbandry, feed additives and perhaps vaccines in the longer term – then that herd is no longer adding to global warming.

...Academics can quibble (it’s what we do best) about the exact factors, but the fact that this formula is vastly more accurate than the traditional accounting rule is indisputable.

Traditional greenhouse gas accounting ignores the impact of changing methane emission rates, while grossly exaggerating the impact of steady methane emissions."

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41612-021-00226-2#MOESM1

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/ideasroom/a-climate-neutral-nz-yes-its-possi…

 

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Very soon the sky is going to fall in if we don't cut back on carbon emissions. Soon in my book is the next 100 years or more. On the other hand we have that wonderful know it all climate activist Greta who is saying "Governments may say they’re doing all they can to halt the climate crisis. Don’t fall for it – then we might still have time to turn things around"

Also we have last chance Charlie, erstwhile prince and now king who has been told politely not to attend COP27. No doubt in case he shoots his mouth off. He might just find he can say far less as king than he could have as a prince. Maybe he'll abdicate.

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An abhorent comment by someone who is focussed on his very limited decadent lifespan at the expense of generations to come.

“We don't inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children."

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Thank you Keith for another insightful article.

 

In the modelling are there any provisions for worsening (or improvement) of carbon uptake by said plantations due to the effects of climate change (avg temp increase, droughts, wildfires, floods)?

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Trees will grow faster with more CO2 but then you face the next limitation. Increased temp could slow growth in some cases. It’s not simple. Genetic gain has delivered big increases in forest growth along with better establishment.

This is one argument around pre1990 forests and additionality - our 2nd and third rotations are growing a lot more volume. 
Also you can increase rotation age and your average volumes go up as well.

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On fire a recent study looking at fire incidence has actually gone down in the last 10 years. Seems counterintuitive but that’s based upon real data. In some areas climate  change could result in more summer rain. It complex.

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I guess fire prevention might be responsible for the down trend but seems like despite all efforts the fire risks are increasing as can be seen in Europe, Australia and some regions of NZ like the Far North or Nelson.

But agree this is likely a very complex issue and hard/impossible to predict how it plays out.

My gut says it's going to get worse. Lots of forrests in the US showing stress from pests like borer that survive in much greater numbers due to milder winter temperatures.

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I should have said that was in NZ only sorry. With our martime climate we have a much more moderated climate and with a potential for more northerly weather systems in the future - as has happened this year and corresponding rain events causing damage - some places may find the main effect is heavy rain events which can cause a lot of physical damage as we are seeing with roads around NZ. We will also get drier and hotter periods as well.

The report was a bit surprising to many of us but it does demonstrate you should rely on hard, reliable data which unfortunately seems to be less common today. Thats why I Iike this report as it is written with good science by reputable people and provided good clarity on the issue.

Im a bit disappointed this report has received so little airtime but the facts can be uncomfortable for all of us sometimes but they are the facts and only by using good science can you go forward.

 

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Offsets - I've come to really dislike the ideology.  And ideology it is (irrespective of all the science that has been invested in it) because the notion of offsetting any form of pollution allows us to think we can just carry on.

The carbon market will save us - yeah right.

   

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