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ANZ economists say a significant drain of people out of the country could put pressure on the housing market and have ramifications for RBNZ monetary policy

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ANZ economists say a significant drain of people out of the country could put pressure on the housing market and have ramifications for RBNZ monetary policy
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The reopening of New Zealand's border could see "a large net outflow of Kiwis" during the rest of this year, economists at the country's largest bank say.

And they say that such an outflow has the potential to put pressure on the housing market and construction industry.

In an NZ Insight publication ANZ economist Finn Robinson and senior economist Miles Workman said that reopening the border "will not be a flick of the switch" that returns international migration and tourism to its pre-Covid levels.

"And the staggered nature of the reopening has some interesting implications for the potential path that net immigration will take over 2022 – especially regarding Australia.

"There’s a real risk that the staggered reopening of the border sees a large net outflow of Kiwis over 2022. This is especially the case given that the outlook for the Australian labour market has improved significantly," the economists say.

They are forecasting that the New Zealand unemployment rate will decline slightly further from 3.2% in Q4 2021 to 2.9% later this year, before hovering around 3% over 2023. At the same time, the outlook for the Australian labour market is looking particularly strong. The Australian labour market has so far proved resilient in the face of Omicron, while job ads remain elevated, "and we don’t think the border opening in Australia will prevent further labour market tightening".

"As such, we are forecasting that the Australian unemployment rate will decline from 4.2% in January 2022 to 3.3% at the end of the year. And we can’t rule out that we could see a 2-handle at some point (as we’re briefly expecting for New Zealand).

"These forecasts imply a fairly rapid erosion of the gap between the Australian and New Zealand unemployment rates.

"That suggests we could see a fairly significant outflow of New Zealanders to Australia over the next few years. Something in the order of 20,000 people a year would be consistent with previous flows when the Australian labour market was last as (relatively) strong as we’re forecasting – although the actual number is highly uncertain given all the Covid-laced water that’s flowed under the bridge in the past few years.

"Usually, arrivals from other countries would be more than enough to comfortably offset a net outflow of 20,000 Kiwis to Australia. But what’s different at the moment is that those arrivals aren’t yet able to enter the country en masse. Depending on the evolution of reopening plans, we could then see a couple of quarters of significantly negative net immigration over mid-2022, at the same time as the labour market is the tightest it’s been on record.

"The challenge in the New Zealand labour market right now is that even though the participation rate is close to a record high, demand has been insatiable. Opening up to Australia will likely only increase that demand."

Robinson and Workman say the overall implications of a large net outflow of people for the balance of supply and demand in the economy "are unclear, especially when the housing market has already turned".

"The appropriate monetary policy response is therefore highly uncertain. It really depends how the offsetting impacts of immigration on supply and demand net out over 2022, but with data uncertainty likely to return as international travel picks up, it will be difficult to diagnose in anything resembling real time.

"For the RBNZ, it is clear there is too much excess demand in the economy – it’s driving underlying inflation pressures higher, and requires further tightening in monetary policy settings. But at the same time, there are many risks to the economic outlook. And as we’ve seen when thinking about the border reopening, those risks have both upside and downside implications for inflation – with no clear answer yet about the net impact.

"The Ukraine situation unfortunately provides another heavy dose of upside risk to inflation yet downside risk to global growth. As the RBNZ navigates using its ‘least regrets’ framework it seems increasingly likely to not be particularly fond of any of its options," the economists say.

They say that on the supply side, they have "traced through" how a significant outflow of Kiwis to Australia could further tighten "the vice of capacity constraints" in the domestic economy.

"We already think there’s going to be a significant amount of domestically generated inflation pressure coming out of the labour market over 2022 and 2023, due to the mismatch between labour supply and demand. Net trans-Tasman outflows could make this problem worse – especially if we don’t initially see many arrivals coming through from other countries.

"All else equal, a more inflationary labour market could require the RBNZ to lift interest rates by more than currently expected - but of course they’ll need to make judgments about the persistence of this and how it might feed through to inflation expectations."

The economists say that while for some industries, an open border "is probably unambiguously good news", the labour shortage is an economy-wide phenomenon.

"...So while hiring managers in some industries may feel relief at being able to hire from overseas, many others may watch with growing angst as potential candidates head across the ditch – particularly over mid-2022, as the staggered reopening initially makes it easier for Kiwis to leave, before it’s easier for overseas workers to arrive."

They note that construction has been a key driver of both domestic growth coming out of the 2020 lockdown, as well as surging domestic inflation – with building costs up 15.7% y/y in 2021, versus the 5.9% lift in overall consumer prices.

"If immigration does turn into a large net outflow over 2022, then combined with current record levels of consents, it’s possible we could see a harder than expected landing in the construction industry.

"This may then threaten overall economic momentum, given how closely correlated the economic cycle is with construction – and in turn that may require the RBNZ to slow down, pause, or even reverse their signalled hiking cycle."

Robinson and Workman say that in the context of a slowing housing market, it’s clear that the implications of negative net immigration are "pretty ambiguous".

"On the one hand, a further reduction in labour supply could see domestic inflation pressures surge even further than currently expected. But if the loss of people overseas then causes a harder landing in the housing market and overall demand to soften, then that could require less contractionary monetary policy than currently expected."

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I booked my (return - have elderly parent & sibling family there I haven't seen in over 2 yrs) flight to Oz last week, before the border isolation nonsense was stopped  - jetstar was already full up till mid year.

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Some great bargains in Brisbane atm. Just don't forget your togs... Oh, and who on earth flies Jetstar?

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Agreed with the headline of the topic.

Why would anyone on average wage and no house would want to live in the country when they can get a better deal somewhere else?

We are and have been a exploitation society for the poor and on average wage for a very long time. Now is the time for then to fly out and find better deals for themselves and progress. 

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Doesn't help that one of the major political parties in NZ supports the exploiters and the other "protects" the poor. Both have vested interests in keeping this societal balance as-is to retain power.

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@ Advisor.  Not sure which parties you mean, but no party is against the exploitation.   New Zealanders at all levels are being farmed.  And all our politicians are clueless about it.

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Not sure about that last sentence...

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Why would someone with a fairly strong "anti-greed" bent dedicate so much time engaging with a website focused on economics.

It's like a vegan going to a steakhouse and making a scene about the menu.

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To educate the greedy, and if one can be educated by trying, That would be an achievement. 

Is better to do try than sit and just post comments.. Howz the well. Got any company yet? 

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I don't think many people are oblivious to human self interest. What'd be a better education for people is how to navigate their financial existence in a way that balances lifestyle, obligation, and the best return for their efforts.

But I guess you've fuel to collect and buttons to push. So not necessarily greedy, but super far from kindness or generosity.

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We've certainly lost any sense of that obligation part of your sentence in recent times. Used to be we had a lot more intergenerational thinking and support, yet we've really turned that around in favour of saddling the young with debt to get into the workforce (subsidising company training costs), extracting wealth from them via housing (where once we aimed politically at affordable housing), then extracting more wealth from them to fund wealthy older folks' benefits regardless of need. 

A bit of education in NZ of how more evenhandedly we could conduct ourselves and our policy would not go amiss at all.

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What an ill informed comment!

You do realise that there are lots of different schools of economics, and plenty of economists are left of centre, including some very famous ones, but I can't be bothered listing them.

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We just watched Wall Street at uni.

Actually half the economics lecturers seemed to be more left, they were a bit more genuine though.

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It's not like a right-wing economist would necessarily agree with the way NZ has rewarded asset speculation and penalised productive work either. Milton Friedman would certainly not have. We have created absurdity here in NZ.

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Nothing better to do?

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"Why would anyone on average wage and no house would want to live in the country when they can get a better deal somewhere else?"

 

I could write a dissertation about this but why don't we start with:

 - Family

 - Friends

 - Risk appetite 

 - Known vs Unknown

 - Location

 

 When you are greedy then it's all about getting a better deal. But when you become not such a greedy kiwi you'll understand there is more to life.

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Apparently there is a wave of pets being shipped to Aussie.  The owners arrive as the Pets complete quarantine.  An advance indicator.

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You reporting from the inside, Catdog?

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Shipped...surely they fly

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I dunno. I keep getting told that the borders will be inundated with returning expats flocking back home with pockets full of cash, all keen to jump head first into the NZ housing market and push prices up even further.

Roughly the same story we were told by Grant Robertson back in 2020, when COVID-19 first hit.

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Sound like you've been talking to lots of real estate agents... The first flights from Australia haven't even been full.

I also know of people who were visiting and then leaving with the MIQ system, most of those that really wanted to move back here have done it by now. 

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My comment was tongue-in-cheek. A few commenters here seem to think that's what's going to happen. Grant Robertson turned out to be lying.

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As you allude to, I think most who want to come back are already back. Those still overseas are perhaps moving on with life beyond the rules and restrictions nz has currently.

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There are so many risks and crisis here: Omicron risk, Inflation risk, Nuclear war risk, Ukraine crisis, housing shortage risk, housing oversupply risk, oh boy, never thought border reopening is considered a risk too... I guess everything can turn into risk in the eyes of RBNZ.

But what I see right now is RBNZ completely missed their mandate of having inflation under control, their incompetence in fact is also a risk of New Zealand economy...

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What are the banks trying to say at the moment... Orr should get the money printer going again and slash the OCR...? 

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It’s like an export trade.
Good quality produce leaves and we import whatever we can get instead - as long as it’s cheap and complies.

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Have ANZ been reading my comments, haha.

They mention a potential hard landing for construction, and in response a halting or reversing of OCR hikes...

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The Oz owned banks with their history of record returns in NZ will put up any number of straw men to keep their drug dealer supplying the cheap money "crack cocaine" to fuel their easy housing loan profits. A lot easier than doing the financial hard yards to try to support loans for SMEs, half of which don't survive more than a few years.

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I find it ironic that a certain commenter consistently derides my views here in terms of my predictions and opinions of bank economists, then said bank economists put up a scenario I have been talking about for months on end.

Talk about ironic.

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you shouldn't. It is a new talkback forum.

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Yep, average wage $60,000 average house $1,000,000 average plane ticket $1000, why would you stay!

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You're not interested in average?

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The usual collection of neer-do-well's moaning about their lot and hating their country. Go on, leave - probably won't even be noticed that you left.

In case you aren't aware, in some of the places you would have rocked up to they are stranded on bridges watching houses float under them in biblical floods and lost everything.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-01/queensland-nsw-weather-rain-floo…

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No more than normal it seems so calm down a bit eh. 

 

" "That suggests we could see a fairly significant outflow of New Zealanders to Australia over the next few years. Something in the order of 20,000 people a year would be consistent with previous flows when the Australian labour market was last as (relatively) strong as we’re forecasting – although the actual number is highly uncertain given all the Covid-laced water that’s flowed under the bridge in the past few years.

"Usually, arrivals from other countries would be more than enough to comfortably offset a net outflow of 20,000 Kiwis to Australia. But what’s different at the moment is that those arrivals aren’t yet able to enter the country en masse. Depending on the evolution of reopening plans, we could then see a couple of quarters of significantly negative net immigration over mid-2022, at the same time as the labour market is the tightest it’s been on record."

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This whinge-fest sounds like a jilted boyfriend.

Don't worry mate, I'm sure the developing world replacements they bring in will be much better than the ones that got away.

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TK sounds like an abuser telling their escaping victim s/he's going to be a lot worse off in future without them 

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Based on my experience, over 100s of staff, sadly yes.

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Why do you even care?

Dry your eyes mate.

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Te Kooti is a racist, disgruntled Maori that would love to see the drain of fair coloured people from his stolen lands.  

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Give it a rest Dan, I couldn't be less disgruntled and do not have a racist bone in my body. I clearly need to dumb my comments down for you. 

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What's with the off topic personal attack Nzdan?

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Calm down mate and take a shower.

Your whining is not going to prevent the highly skilled young Kiwis from getting into much better prospects overseas, getting fair wages and returns  without having to subsidize NZ parasitic and unproductive housing specufestors and their overpriced "investments". Even assuming that any of them bothered to read your complaining before leaving (and this is quite an heroic assumption), they would not possibly care any less. 

Your whining is not is going to prevent the housing Ponzi from correcting. It is not going to prevent interest rates from normalizing. It is not going to prevent economic fundamentals from reasserting themselves. 

Your rants are starting to sound more and more desperate. Maybe you should suck it up and acknowledge the fact that things have changed.

BTW, this Trumpian-like rhetoric of people leaving because they "hate their country" is one of the dumbest statements that I have ever read in a very long time, and is offensive towards the hundreds of thousands of kiwis who are being successful overseas and in many cases contributing to NZ in terms of business and cultural international relationship. You are not doing yourself any favor by writing such dull-witted posts.   

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Tells people to calm down, stop whining and ranting. 

Proceeds to whine angrily and rant. 

 

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So people leaving for higher wages and more affordable housing, and the people left behind get higher wages and more affordable housing. Sounds like a win-win.

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This article could be translated to:

'We're about to find out if we currently have a real economy or a housing market with some milk and tree production tacked on'

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My mid twenties sons and partners - all professionals are being cold call contacted by recruitment in Australia, UK and Europe. They are going anyway to Europe as they planned to a few years ago pre covid. Probably come back with plenty of money and settle for families  - I hope!!

Europe is heading to have 30 million less working age people by 2050 than they have now and it cant be stopped. Its not just here - its everywhere and get used to a new world with less people available to work.

Russias population fell my 1 million last year (Covid helped) but averaging 500k drop a year.

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Assuming there is a resolution soon to Ukraine... I think there is an even chance it could get really ugly.

Talk about a DGM!

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Who wants to mortgage their life for dull and overly expensive shoebox, remember these shoeboxed look fancy when they are new down the line 10 to 15 years they will look like ghettos with owners under a mortgage of half a million.

If you are looking for your first home in NZ better move to AU.

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Simply another consequence of the low wage economy so prevalent in New Zealand for decades.

Business is always happy to quote demand and supply for cost increases ... But not when it comes to the price of labour.

Fantastic that business has not recently been able to rely on cheap imported labour, giving New Zealanders the chance to demand the higher wages they need to cope... Though obviously it has all been too little, too late.

Miserly selfish behaviour has consequences.

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I don't understand the premise of this article.  The border has been closed for those wanting to enter, not exit NZ.  Wouldn't the mass exodus have already occurred?  People don't have to wait until the inward border is open to pack their bags to take the outwards exit.

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