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New Zealand and Australia need to line up with what’s happening in other markets when it comes to investing in resilience against natural hazard risk - even if that number feels big, insurance expert says

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New Zealand and Australia need to line up with what’s happening in other markets when it comes to investing in resilience against natural hazard risk - even if that number feels big, insurance expert says
Insurance Council of Australia general manager of climate, social policy and international engagement Alix Pearce. Image source: Steve Hussey/Supplied
Insurance Council of Australia general manager of climate, social policy and international engagement Alix Pearce. Image source: Steve Hussey/Supplied

Insurance Council of Australia’s Alix Pearce says a critical decade of insurance risk poses challenges too big for either the Government or private sector insurers to manage alone.

Part of a panel at the Insurance Council of New Zealand (ICNZ) conference in Auckland on Thursday, Pearce alongside Gisborne Mayor Rehette Stoltz, ICNZ chief executive Kris Faafoi and Consumer NZ chief executive Jon Duffy spoke about the future of insurance.

Pearce, Insurance Council of Australia's general manager of climate, social policy and international engagement, recently travelled to six countries and had spoke with 120 decision makers on these issues. Asking them how they were solving this, she said from the responses, three things stuck out to her.

Pearce said we needed a step change in resilience investment. “Other markets are way ahead of the curve in comparison to New Zealand and Australia.”

“The second is that we absolutely can find new ways of spreading risk ... We're seeing globally, communities, industries, governments coming together to find new ways of spreading risk. Some of those ways are really effective and some of those ways offer cautionary tales. There’s some really clear lessons that will help us build clear strategies here.”

Her third point was: “We have to stop doing dumb things.” When Pearce asked people what was one policy lever that they could pull to make a difference, they all said land-use planning.

“‘Stop building in places that we know will flood, that we know will set alight, and we expect different things to happen.’ And that really resonated for me, and I think it’s really applicable to our regions as well.”

‘What we have is not currently fit for purpose’

Stoltz agreed with Pearce on land-use planning, saying there was about 10,000 hectares worth of forestry and farming in Tairāwhiti that were in high-risk areas.

If they addressed that, it would change how they recover, she said.

“It is so, so very important, but we need money. We do need investment into cases like that, so that we can make it happen. There are ETS [Emissions Trading Scheme] liabilities and bigger issues to address, so funding is needed in some or other way."

“What we have currently is not fit for purpose, Stoltz said.

Who pays?

The question that hovers over discussions on insurance, natural hazard risk, mitigation and adaptation is always: who pays?

Faafoi, whose organisation is proposing to replace the Fire and Emergency levy with a ‘Community Protection Levy’, said the main issue was that we needed to start answering that question.

“Everyone seems to be ignoring that question, so we want to start having that conversation … politicians might come and rubbish [the levy proposal], but okay, then what is the alternative? Because that’s the conversation that actually needs to happen for the long-term interests of communities like Rehette’s and [Auckland Mayor] Wayne’s and every other council in the country.

“I’ve seen the list of projects that would like to be included … it is long and it is immense, so someone actually has to start thinking about how we actually pay for that.”

Stoltz said local government was dealing with funding mechanisms that were not fit for purpose.

“We all know that and the discussions need to be had … there’s a clear distinction, who pays for what and who is responsible for what, especially in smaller communities where there’s a small rating base.”

Reducing a nation’s disaster recovery time

Pearce said if investment was made now, this would improve insurance penetration in those communities.

“What we’ve seen in global markets is that every percentage point you can increase [the] national penetration rate by, reduces a nation’s disaster recovery time by 12 months. So that’s 12 months you’re reducing recovery - that’s significant for community but it’s significant for the government bottom line as well.”

The longer it takes to recover from disaster, the longer you’re seeing mounting costs, she said.

While there was an upfront barrier, the benefits were considerable for the broader community as well, she said.

Lining up with other markets

Pearce said what was important to underscore is that investments were being made around the world in places that were facing similar fiscal challenges.

She pointed to the United Kingdom which had committed £4.2 billion over the next three years in flood defence and the Netherlands had committed an average of €1.25 billion a year (up to 2032) on flood defence.

“We need to line up with what’s happening in other markets, even if that number feels big to swallow.”

Budget 2026 did see investment in infrastructure - with a focus on things like rail, roads, hospital and school upgrades.

Nearly living in the river or ocean

Asked by a member of the audience if Gisborne District Council had control over where building occurred and if they had veto rights over developers, Stoltz said they didn’t.

Stoltz said they all followed the same rules and had a spatial plan where they were actively trying to incentivise people to build in areas where the council wanted them to build.

“But over the last 100 years, we have allowed people to nearly live in the river or in the ocean ... To pull back from that is like pulling your own teeth."

“So it is going to be really, really tough for us as we work with our spatial planning moving forward to be able to make sure we don't do planning where it is inappropriate, but often developers come with plans and support and funding, and it is tough for us to push them into the right direction," Stoltz said.

Pressed further by MC Miriama Kamo about why that was, Stoltz said developers had money.

Practical solutions

Pearce said there was no silver bullet solution but some interesting approaches were being taken in places like France and Norway.

“If a disaster rolls through, you can't automatically rebuild. There's this old idea that we must rebuild ... But actually, in these other markets, they say ‘no, a disaster has gone through. Is it appropriate to rebuild there at all? And if it is, should we do that to stronger building codes and standards, or if an individual chooses to live there, should they still be able to access insurance, knowing the risk?’”

“So there's some really kind of key questions that need to happen, and it's a bit of a wicked problem for local councils,” Pearce said.

Stoltz said: “We do need to make sure as a nation [we] do our adaptation planning. That what we see on the ground, the real stories happening in people's lives, are connected.”

“And those rules made by Government then flows down into practical solutions, which protect our communities and build our resilience more.”

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'“So it is going to be really, really tough for us as we work with our spatial planning moving forward to be able to make sure we don't do planning where it is inappropriate, but often developers come with plans and support and funding, and it is tough for us to push them into the right direction," Stoltz said.

Pressed further by MC Miriama Kamo about why that was, Stoltz said developers had money.'

If developers who push new projects that have increased flood, fire and earthquake risks were financially liable for a significant share of the later damage repair costs for say 30 years then the magnitude of costs falling unfairly on the council and rate paying or general public then this would help reduce the greed element in developers projects decision making. IMO this could be achieved by an  Act of Parliament or by Regulations (not an expert here).

Individuals who purchase high risk properties even though they may be uninformed, misinformed, miscalculating, deceived, or foolish do bear some (or possibly all) of the portion of responsibility of their decisions and the financial costs, but local and national governments influence and shape individuals decisions by law and regulations and they too make errors of judgement and can make corrupt decisions for financial gain.

The 50% of the population who have less than average intelligence, many with insufficient education, and vulnerable to the manipulations of those with more power in the marketplace  exemplifies that these issues should not be ignored and denied by elites in government who have a duty to serve their electors.

I have no confidence that any of the political parties contesting in the next general election will make any attempt to address the issues presented in this article, and will leave it to insurance companies to force the issue onto individual property owners to be solely responsible for all the property damage costs of their purchasing decisions by withdrawing insurance cover where the risks are too high and their profitability is threatened.

That the present governments parties are so short term thinking and ignorant (possibly responding to under the table cash and/or donations?) that they think a new LNG terminal and storage tanks is the answer to our dry year electricity problem is for me clear evidence that they are incapable of addressing long term planning and risk management and lack the intellectual capacity and moral competence to deal with the complex problems addressed in this article and the subjects of the conference.

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Only 50% - that’s generous. In my experience very few people understand risk. I’ve seen councils wanting to add warnings to LIMS etc re risk only to have outrage and venom even though they are correct and based upon science and data.

The economics of Stupidity always beats reality and science. You don’t have to look far to see that everywhere.

Even when reality does arrive most still deny it and we repair and carry on and it’s “the governments fault”. Politicians are simply a reflection of voters - politicians aren’t the problem.

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I recently had a chat to someone with knowledge in an upper south island council who said that after flooding events, many rural contituents living on riverbeds, or who experienced flood damage, come to the council asking them to sort out their private fields, private roads and even private driveways would you believe it. Seems to me that too many expect someone else to to take on the risk and cover all costs without having any idea of personal responsibility.

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It’s rampant. On one of my properties I lost a new bridge in Gabrielle. I didn’t expect any help, money etc - it’s a commercial operation and mine to sort out which I did. Meanwhile some surrounding landowners and their leaders wanted Grants and free money to repair their losses. It seems lost on them and their leaders that they are in business and risk is always there.

They seem to forget that they are asking everyone, who often has had a loss as well, to repair them for free so they can carryon as before - and therein lies the stupidity of it all which they seem blind to.

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"Christchurch Mayor Phil Mauger says small pockets of the city’s residential red zone could be used to help first home buyers into the market, while also flagging the possible sale of Apollo Projects Stadium and a chunk of surrounding land to help pay down council debt."

https://www.chrislynchmedia.com/news-items/mauger-small-pockets-of-chri…

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A lot of central government tax money went into Chch following the earthquakes. Partly to bail out their stupid local decisions for allowing people to build on swampy land. I'd hate to think they're letting bad habits creep back in 

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It is amazing what people can do in positions of power when there's money or status to be gained, and they don't have to be held personally liable for the consequences if the worst happens.

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