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Head of Auckland's biggest real estate firm believes RBNZ clamps on low equity mortgage lending will make housing more affordable

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Head of Auckland's biggest real estate firm believes RBNZ clamps on low equity mortgage lending will make housing more affordable

The head of Auckland's largest real estate firm believes that "speed limits" on high loan to value (LVR) lending are likely to have a positive impact on the housing market.

Managing director of Barfoot & Thompson Peter Thompson told interest.co.nz the limits, coming into effect on October 1, were "going to be a great thing" for affordability. See here for articles on LVRs.

Thompson, whose firm accounts for about 40% of Auckland house sales thinks LVRs will be good for affordability "because it is not so much about the price - it’s about people’s expectations".

"And if they can’t borrow as much as they would really like to live in the dream area they are going to have to move to a slightly less suburb that they can afford with a slightly less mortgage.

"And I think that over a period of 12 months – it’s not going to happen straight away – I think you will start to see prices come back to make it more affordable, and that’s got to be good for everybody."

The LVRs were likely to "make people be able to afford what they can actually afford rather than over commit", Thompson said.

Rising interest rates

"And interest rates will go up over a period of time. They’ve never stayed this low for such a long period. And if interest rates do go up and they’ve borrowed so much more against the property it does put them in a position and, dare I say, it that’s where we start seeing split marriages, or split relationships, mortgagee sales - and we don’t want to go down that line again."

The B&T sales figures for August showed an easing of price in the Auckland region. But while there was a strong pick-up in new listings, relieving pressure on tight inventories of available houses, the number of houses sold remained at high levels.

Thompson believed the Auckland market was now "steady" after some fairly sharp prices rises earlier in the year.

“We are in a very settled market now, which is quite pleasing to hear,” he said.

More on the market

“...There is a lot of confidence that the market is starting to see more property come on to the market to match the number of buyers that we’ve got there.

“I think we are going to see a steady period for six months and then we get the new properties that are under consent at the council possibly coming on the market at that time as well.”

However, he said it was “fair to say” there could be something of a crunch if numbers of new listings don’t continue to pick up along with the inevitable rising in buying interest that the onset of spring will bring.

“We’ve got a lot of buyers out there. And what we are seeing at auctions is properties selling in a shorter timeframe and that’s because there’s good buyers and people are making pre-auction offers that the price is acceptable to the owner and we are bringing forward the auction.”

Where are prices heading?

Asked about where he thought prices were heading in coming months, Thompson said: "...There is a seasonal factor and traditionally when we get to October-November and even the beginning part of December we will see the prices go up a little bit. They will fall away a bit say in December-January and beginning part of February and then most probably increase again end of February through to April.

“So, that’s the seasonal trend and it does have an effect on the price, but overall I think if we take all those into consideration over a 12-month period, I think we are going to see prices remain relatively where they are at the moment. There’s not a lot of movement. One month it may be up one month it may be down but very minimal.”

Barfoot & Thompson currently sells about 55%-60% of its houses through auctions.

“And that’s mainly because the market’s generated because of the lack of supply,"  Thompson said.

Plenty of buyers

"We’ve got plenty of buyers and people are making good offers on these properties. It does shorten the campaign of the property and that’s a concern to us, but at the end of the day if a vendor says I want to take that offer we’ve got to make sure that they do take that offer."

There has been some criticism levelled against the auction process, along with suggestions that some vendors could simply organise their own registered auctioneer to sell their property and cut out the estate agent.

Thompson was asked about this.

“You could [organise your own auctioneer], but would you get the best price? At least the real estate agents know the market, they know how to do the campaigns. It’s not just about having an auctioneer calling the auction. It’s also about the preparation, the marketing, and that’s where the real estate agents come into their niche."

Thompson suggested in any case that the current trend toward auctions may ultimately reverse.

“I think once we start to see more listings on the market, more competition for sales, I think you could eventually move away from the auction and go back to more the traditional - but certainly the auction at the moment is the best way to be selling your property here in Auckland. It is not a nationwide thing it is mostly here in Auckland."       

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"And I think that over a period of 12 months – it’s not going to happen straight away – I think you will start to see prices come back to make it more affordable, and that’s got to be good for everybody."

Peter Thompson

 

Well what would you expect him to say?

He knows that the RB will be taking close notice of what B & T's figures are and whatever its executives say.

Mt Thompson  has to sound very moderate while he keeps one eye on the RB and one eye on the media.

 

It's all politics, pure and simple.

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The next 6-12 months reads like an investors paradise to me.    Let's get this straight. LVR limits blocking FHB'ers (good for investors with existing equity and/or cash). With reduced competition from pesky FHB'ers investors can take their time and hunt out good deals. Over the next 12 months "... we are going to see prices remain relatively where they are at the moment" so no need to rush out and buy something today, waiting until tomorrow will be fine - just get in before interest rates get too much higher. An outlook of rising interest rates - so the next say 3-6 months would be a good time to buy and lock rates in for 4-5 years (if you weren't lucky enough to buy and lock in todays rates!). That time frame (crystal ball gazing here) should allow you to watch interest rates head up and start to drop back down again before you need to refix. An inadequate response to the supply side problem so highly likely there will still be a shortage of houses in the years to come.    Now let's look ahead. In 4-5 years time (probably sooner) LVR restrictions are removed. FHB'ers come back into the market in droves with their big deposits saved up during the RB's LVR experiment. Supply side still not adequately addressed. Investors holding housing stock can sell for healthy capital gains or hold keeping supply restrained and watching their equity grow further. The only question really is do you believe house prices in Auckland will be higher in 4-5 years than they are today? They may go up and down in between but do you think they will be up or down in 2018?   Party on investors. 
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... the next 6 - 12 months look like being a loan-shark's paradise too ...

 

A boon for those benevolent back-alley financiers who will eagerly assist by topping up your measerly savings with just enough to getcha over the LVR line , faster than Insane Bolt running the men's 100 mteres at the Olympics ....

 

... and for an interest rate high enough to make a mountaineer swoon ...

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game over dude.

 

Investors typically use other peoples money to invest - its the best way, ie called leverage.  The LVR hits this for a six, especially with the "bonus" interest rates for the lucky 10% who get through the door.

 

Say goodbye to investors (the real ones anyway)

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Yeah...nah.  Investors are effected but no where near the way first home buyers are.  Effect on first home buyers saving a deposit for a 500k (average ish) house, probably saving at 20k per year would have had around 2.5 years before buying.  The same first home buyer now has 5 years before buying.  With prices doubling in that time frame they will probably never be able to buy that average house and will have to lower their expectations. 

 

Investor with a 2m portfolio, revalues a year later at 2.4m, instantly has deposit for 2m more.  Usually they would be able to buy 4m more so your right they will be slowed down. 

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10 year bonds ... chart over max years ... what does it mean Hugh?

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5ETNX&t=my&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=

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Forgive me Hugh. I am a very simple man. I see two trends from the charts we referred to. 1) the 2 year chart suggests a trend of rising interest rates, and 2) the max term chart suggests current interest rates being at the lowest levels in 50 years. 

 (Again, I am a very simple man), but would this not suggest that it is a good time to lock in interest rates?

Certainly higher interest rates will have an impact on property prices. But isn't it better to lock in lower rates today than to sit on the sidleines until the trend is for interest rates to be heading down again? How long should a prospective property purchaser wait? We may not see rates this low again for decades. 

Again, my question is: do you believe property prices will be higher or lower in 5 years? If you believe they will be lower - certainly do nothing. If you believe they will be higher carpe diem.

 

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The bottom of the curve is the exact wrong time to buy. House prices are a mostly dictated by what someone can afford to pay. A $500k mortgage at 5% is a payment of $2922/month on a 25 year mortgage. To keep the same payment going forward as the interest rate increases, the capital value must fall.

 

6% - $454k

7% - 414k

8% - 379k

9% - 348k

10% - 322k

 

The best time to buy is when rates are at a high and will come down as you will get the capital gain and decreasing mortgage costs.

 

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I've always thought the best time to buy a house is when you need somewhere to live.

Man how times change, capital gains ehh. Who would of thunk.

Given the amount of residential property articles that are displayed on the front page of this site at the moment, and all the talk of the borrowing, and the mortgages, and the tax gains from doing bugger all, well ....

Make hay while the sun shines people, and don't complain when the inevitible rain ruins your parade.

 

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kiwimm - This seems straight forward enough. But... under this rationale house prices will need to drop 20-30% + in value over the coming few years in order for people to be able to buy them (if we assume interest rates will rise and current property values are at the maximum of what people can afford to pay).

 

In this scenario my advice to PI's and all home owners would be simple - do not sell. This will lead to further supply constraints. Decreasing supply plus stable or increasing demand = higher prices. 

 

For property investors to service mortgage repayments at the same profit/loss they are currently achieving they will simply have to increase rents. With fewer houses for sale people will have not choice but to rent.

 

People on this site have been repeatedly forecasting 20-30% drops in NZ property values over the past few years whilst we've watched property values (in Auckland and Christchurch) go up, up, up. Those who have paid any attention and not purchased over the past number of years have missed out on hundreds of thousands of dollars in capital gains. 

 

I am an advocate that the best time to buy is when you can.

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Thompson ‘believes that "speed limits" on high loan to value (LVR) lending are likely to have a positive impact on the housing market. ‘ Because

‘if they can’t borrow as much as they would really like to live in the dream area they are going to have to move to a slightly less suburb that they can afford with a slightly less mortgage.’

So following the logic, if we want more of a positive effect on the housing market, we would increase the LVR even more?

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