Double Shot Interview: HiFX's Dan Bell reviews the week's markets slump on global recession fears; NZ$'s dive to key levels; outlook for G7 action

Double Shot Interview: HiFX's Dan Bell reviews the week's markets slump on global recession fears; NZ$'s dive to key levels; outlook for G7 action

Bernard Hickey talks with HiFX Senior Dealer Dan Bell about the week's currencies and markets action, including the slump in global stock markets after the US Federal Reserve warned of signficant economic risks and financial market stress.

Bell talks about the market's realisation that the US Federal Reserve is struggling to fire up the world's largest economy and that authorities on both sides of the Atlantic lack the cohesion or vehicles to fix the problems with sovereign debt and slides back towards recession..

"This Eurozone debt crisis has been bubbling for a while and there's a lot of people who have been surprised that global markets have held up so well," he said.

"This week we saw the broad realisation that the Eurozone debt crisis is not getting resolved and the US Federal Reserve has run out of ammunition," he said, pointing to the reaction after the Fed's warning and its widely expected 'Twist' strategy of selling short term bonds and buying long term bonds to push long term interest rates lower.

"Investors focused on that, and we've seen a capitulation trade in risk assets over the last couple of days," he said, citing the New Zealand dollar's fall from 83 USc this week to a low of 77.5 USc.

"We're still considered a risk-positive currency or growth currency. A lot of investors will hold New Zealand dollars on the basis that we offer a more attractive interest rate, so their home currency isn't New Zealand dollars and they have a home bias towards US dollars or Japanese yen," he said.

"When global confidence falls out of bed, you see investors taking their money back into US dollars and US Treasuries, which are considered the most safe-haven asset in times of turmoil."

Investors would watch out for concerted action from the G7  and G20 nations out of weekend meetings. After the interview the G20 pledged a "strong and coordinated" response to global economic challenges, but did not announce any action. See more here at Bloomberg.

"At the end of the day talk is cheap," he cautioned.

Bell pointed to weak factory output figures in Europe and China as a symptom of the economic problems underneath markets.

Weak New Zealand GDP figures for the June quarter  on Thursday had also been a factor weakening the New Zealand dollar towards a key support level of 77.5 USc. A break below that level could see the currency fall to the mid to low 70c mark.

"We could easily see the Kiwi down another 10%," he said, pointing to what happened in late 2008 after the collapse of Lehman Bros.

The New Zealand dollar has also weakened against the British pound to around 50 cents from 53 cents last week, despite fresh talk of money printing by the Bank of England.

The New Zealand dollar had also defied logic by trading lower against the euro to around 58 euro cents from over 60 cents last week, despite the Euro problems and the chances of a cut by the European Central Bank.

Dan Bell is the Senior Dealer at HiFX, a UK-headquartered foreign exchange dealer with significant operations in Australia and New Zealand. It has a dealing room in Auckland. See more detail here.

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And Interest Rates now on hold for another 10 months or so.  Or even lower.

"NZIER principal economist Shamubeel Eaqub said momentum was fading across the economy. The crowd was now likely to move towards his forecast that the Reserve Bank would hold rates at 2.5 per cent until June, given the global uncertainty."

Where are all the Bank Economists with their OCR forecast of 6% now? 

Mortgage can Bollard's ocr at 2.5% save a bank from having to fork out more to refi an overseas debt?

Why would Kiwi peasants and serfs save money that is being debased leaving them worse off after tax on the grotty interest rate!

Why wouldn't the same kiwi shift themselves over into the gst free black market!

How can English escape from his fiscal hole!

Why should commodity prices remain high.!

industrial commodities are slumping.


1. Why NZ interest refinancing be cheap, well because every other economy will push their interest rates down in order to 'save' their economy, but finance knows no boundarys so borrower economies will benefit as well

2. Commodity prices stay high, well in the case of food we all have to eat and in orwells world some eat better than others.

What I find interesting is the bleated dogma, "USD is the save haven" etc, what do you want the promise of growth and prosperity coupled with riots or a full belly and a nice pint?


These are all excellent questions Wolly.
1. Maybe an OCR drop could counter any overseas debt raising hike. Or one should fix soon in anticipation?
2. No point in saving  -  spend it now before one's short earthly life passes.
3. Personal ethics?
4. BE only has 3.2 years left in the job. Asset sales. NZ become an Austrlalian state.
5. Maybe flatten out a bit. 3 billion Chinese & Indian have to eat.

Sorry MB....... It all hinges on how much brown stuff splatters the walls when the piigs farce explodes. There are no boyscouts coming to the rescue.

Martians Wolly, it is martians this time

Funny how gold has dived. Anyone for a paper promise that your gold is safe...hah.

Best direction is debt free...stock up at sales on what you need...grow the the chooks..join the black a predator and go catch some fish....clean the rifle and buy heaps of ammo. And for your sake, stay away from banks selling credit drugs.

Word is that margin hikes by CME is wot dun it:

Could be - those 3 in particular were battered (cp to other commodities). Previous margin hikes have tended to have the same effect.

Fall in the kiwi $ has abrogated a considerable amount of the effect on POG in NZ$ terms (though not so much in the last 24 hours)

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