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Opinion: Much more independent information is needed about the New Zealand housing market

Opinion: Much more independent information is needed about the New Zealand housing market
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By David Hargreaves

Perhaps you wouldn't describe housing as New Zealand's national obsession. That honour probably goes to the All Blacks, sorry the 'ABs'.

But in terms of what matters to the average Kiwi, housing as a subject of importance is definitely right up there.

And yet what do we know about the current housing market? I'll ask that again. What do we really know about the housing market?

By this I mean hard information, not gossip, innuendo, speculation and opinion. Everybody has an opinion and this article is just another of those. But what about hard facts?

Who is buying houses? Where do they come from? Why are they buying the houses? Etc, etc, etc.

It seems to me we are long past the time in this country when much more specific, independent, information needs to be gathered on the housing market.

Why does it matter? Because Government policy and decisions are being made on the basis of what seems to me very incomplete information, coupled with assumptions.

Take two developments this week.

First we had the BNZ-REINZ Residential Market Survey having another crack at determining what proportion of  New Zealand homes are being bought by offshore-based buyers.

Then we had the news from last year's census that levels of home-ownership are continuing to fall, particularly among younger Kiwis.

There were these interesting comments from Finance Minister Bill English on the BNZ-REINZ survey:

English said the Government had no plans to follow the Australian example of limiting non-resident purchases to new homes or reviewing compliance with those rules.

"We're keeping an eye out for it. The [BNZ-REINZ} survey information shows it's pretty low numbers of people," he said, adding it was the only information available.

"It would be good to know a bit more about it, but we still think it's a distraction from the main issue, which drives all house prices, which is the lack of flexible supply of new housing."

So, it would be "good to know a bit more about it". Well, yes, I think you are right there, Bill.

BNZ chief economist Tony Alexander is to be applauded for what almost seems like a personal mission to find out more about the origins of those buying New Zealand houses. But, with all due respect and congratulations for making the effort, it has to be questioned just how effectively someone can hope to measure something like overseas buying when this is done through a voluntary survey, which depends on information being provided by real estate agents, who might be expected to have bigger things on their mind when selling a house than where the person buying it came from.

I'm not prepared to say that the survey's conclusion that 6.4% of houses were bought by offshore people is wrong - though what can be seen with your own eyes in Auckland might suggest it is. But the point is I don't know. And neither does anybody else. Everybody has an opinion. But that's the point. Opinions. Where are the facts?

The 'only' information

And as Bill English depressingly put it when referring to the BNZ-REINZ survey - it's the only information available. Amazing. So, the official Government line is that we won't have controls on foreign buyers because a voluntary survey through which information is gathered third-hand (IE real estate agents asking people where they are from) suggests its not a problem.

Then English goes on to say that while it would be "good to know a bit more about it", it's a distraction from the main issue, which drives all house prices, "which is the lack of flexible supply of new housing". Well, is that the reason? Backed up by which hard pieces of information exactly? It looks suspiciously like another opinion to me.

Here's yet another opinion. I think at least part of the reason why house prices have risen so strongly in Auckland over the past year is that a lot of people want to own homes as investments. So, one would-be investor goes against another would-be investor, driving prices up. Yes, as I said, that is an opinion. In fact of course we do have hard evidence through Stats NZ's building figures that Auckland has not built many new houses since the global financial crisis. That's a fact. But it is still an assumption that some perceived shortage is the whole reason why prices have gone up.

Where from?

Wouldn't it be rather useful to know, not only where buyers are coming from but specifically and unequivocally what they are buying the house for? IE are they an investor or do they want somewhere to live?

To go back to the census information on home ownership. Well, it is interesting, but what conclusions should actually be drawn from it?

The census is a fabulous piece of quantitative research that provides good, hard, statistical information.

But what's lacking in the information on home ownership - and it would be probably impossible to do this in a census - is some sense of why the levels of home ownership are falling.

The politicians again immediately climb into this as being all about affordability. Well, it might be. But to be honest I don't know that. It's an opinion again, based on an assumption.

Maybe there are other reasons why people are not buying houses. You can't just look at a figure that shows a declining trend in home ownership and say immediately that everybody wants their own home and if fewer people are buying it's because they simply can't afford it.

Foreign limits

Personally I think New Zealand needs to look at limits on foreign ownership, not just of houses but of land.

I also think the country needs to look at limits for people investing in houses.

But, further to that, I think that until as a country we've worked out independent ways of assessing levels of foreign ownership and levels of buying by investors, then there's little that can be productively done.

In the meantime, any Government action on perceived housing problems is going to be based on assumptions rather than hard facts - which is dangerous.

And, yes, that is an opinion.

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21 Comments

In the dark about housing .... aren't we all ?

Does the current Government even have a policy on this vexed issue?

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Sell it all.....

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Lets say overseas based people own 6.4% of all houses in Auckland - thats about 30,000 - the amount the Govt wants to build in 3 years. I guess it could not now pass a law requiring these needed to be sold to new zealanaders.

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Spot on, in my opinion. :-)  Two and a half years ago I wrote to Bill English to urge him to (a) start measuring off-shore investment in housing and (b) consider adopting Australia's policy (new builds only). I actually got a reply, which was nice, but it basically was just a cut and paste on the benefits of foreign investment in NZ. I fail to see any benefits from off-shore money investing in existing real estate (and, yes, I own a home). But the bigger issue, it WHY AREN"T WE MEASURING IT? The US does and I think the US does too.

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The rules in Australia have made little difference. Once a foreigner gains permanent residency, that person can be used as a portal for foreign syndicates. Australia continues to have the same problems we do.

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To make any difference now, our rules would have to be even tighter than Australia and including the compulsory resale of existing properties or at the very minimum taxing them into submission.

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"I fail to see any benefits from off-shore money investing in existing real estate"

 

It can be useful when buildings that aren't really financially feasible get feasible by selling them at over valued rates to foriegners who a few years later sell them at great loss to locals.

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We are perhaps just starting to wake up to the fact that it is the margin buyer that determines the movement in prices of any commodity or asset. Witness the Chinese demand for milk products being the major cause of doubling the payout in the last year or two.

Can housing be any different?

Continuing pressure from investment buyers (whether overseas or local or both) is pushing new owner occupiers further away from their goals. The only solutions are to:

1. Exclude those who are of least value to the country - the overseas speculator.

2. Exclude those who have easy access to cheap finance to buy. 

3. Balance the ability of owner occupiers to that of landlords by reducing the benefits of gearing in the tax system.

Yes I will vote for any party with a comprehensive answer to the problem. 

It would seem that by its inaction and contrived ignorance the National party are making every effort to exclude themselves from my vote and I suspect the votes of many others.

BTW is there really, really a shortage of housing in Auckland or is it just landlords soaking up available prioperty at ever higher prices?

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Good-quality data is sorely lacking, which is the point of DC's article.

 

Perhaps we could enlist the NSA - they are Big Data specialists after all, and ask them to run a query or three.

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And at the end of the day, if a foreigner who has gained NZ citizenship, uses money supplied from overseas sources to speculate in the NZ property market, there is nothing that can effectively be done against that.  And there would be little 'hard' data that would show that this is happening.  All you would see is a NZ'er buying many properties (Winston recons he knows of one with 70-odd auckland properties and will reveal all in due time!).

 

 

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Hence the need to make investing in property no more attractive than owning for your own use.

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We changed /loosened / reduced  the rules for migrant investors in about 2011 if I recall .

I wonder if the upsurge in so called investment coincided with the loosening of the rules for residency ?

The problem gets worse when you consider that these so-called  "investors" use the investment in Auckland property to get in the door and become resident.  

A best its bending the rules , at worst its cheating.  

Lowering the bar is not always clever as many migrants come from places where business and ethical practices are not as we know them .

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Here's a package to get NZ's housing price affordable again:

1. reduce building costs

2. build more

3. create more jobs in provincial regions

Funny that the above 3 all need more people/immigrants, which many will argue that it would worsen the situation even further.

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Agree - but now only LBP can build buildings so the supply of builders has been reduced..... driving up price

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1. Reduce building costs.

More immigrants competing for resources means reducing building costs? Hmmm...

Or do you propose that immigrants will go into business to compete against existing suppliers?

2. Build more.

This is really a function of number 1.

In terms of the actual labour required - we have high youth unemployment, and building is a good apprenticeship that we should be able to fill with existing population numbers if more development becomes feasible (see number 1).

Immigrants go mainly into what types of employment? Building? Hmmm...

3. Create more jobs in provincial regions.

More immigrants will make this happen? What does the evidence suggest? Hmmm...

0 out of 3 in my opinion.

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We HAVE more people than we have ever had before and none of that has happened, in fact the reverse, which leads me to the logical conclusion that what we need, like the rest of the world, is less people.

Seriously, I do not want a big population in this country, I like beaches without crowds and  bit of space, if you want a crowded country there are plenty of others for you

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While we don't know what is happening at a micro level, or at a small time period, the census does include both home ownership questions and how long have you been in the country questions. And the meshblock level data should be out by the end of the month, so much causual analysis can be made of the changes between 2006 and 2013 at a meshblock area unit size.

Prettymuch anyone with a bit of data analysis background should be able to pull that one off- the data is in a pretty easily laid out format.

Now, if you want to know what is happening at smaller time periods, that is where actually collecting the data would make life a lot easier, rather than have to make estimates from correlated values.

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what's happening they cried? Go to an auction, or look at Auckland Grammar roles, or collect door to door in Epsom, Royal Oak, Sandringham......etc etc, and note the empty hardly used houses of offshore buyers, or walk around AUT, or AKL Uni, or take a walk down Queen St, or better still look at a few streets using Property Guru and note the surnames, or investigate who owns what buildings in the CBD. does Bill not know? Yes, some are passing through but c'mon, it's flipping obvious what is happening. More a case they don't care. I will say this, Winnie gets my vote for the first time EVER, and purely for this issue. Or my grand kids will all be renters, and strangers in a stranger AKL. I cannot believe those that have the power to stop this, do nothing, unbelievable.

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Its a no brainer. Ask any realestate agent, attend any central city auctions. Most don't even speak English. The government and the Reserve Bank - LVRs and OCR raises have no clue and make no difference to the Chinese 'investor' invasion. It's a joke, and a vey poor one at that.

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http://www.barfoot.co.nz/News/2013/May/Top-25-Salespeople-2013.aspx

 

Says it pretty well I feel.

 

"Oh, but the Chinese make great salespeople because they work so hard, they work long into the evening after most real estate agents have clocked off" ..... yeah, on the phone to Shanghai closing deals during their working day.

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