As the United States and Israel's attack on Iran causes ripples around the world, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon says it's up to the US and Israel to assert whether their attack is legal or not.
This is not a position held by Labour leader Chris Hipkins, who told reporters that while successive governments have expressed concern about the Iranian regime, "that does not justify any action, particularly when it breaches international law".
These comments come as over the weekend, the US and Israel launched air strikes across Iran with the BBC reporting locations targeted included Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) facilities, air defence capabilities, missile and drone launch sites, and military airfields.
According to the Red Crescent, at least 200 people have been killed and more than 700 people are injured across Iran. The BBC reported at least 153 people, including children, were killed after a reported strike hit a school in Southern Iran.
Following the US and Israel's attack, Iran launched missile strikes across the Middle East, and Israel, killing at least nine people in Beit Shemesh, Al Jazeera reported.
US President Donald Trump announced that Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the supreme leader of Iran, was killed in an air strike and this was later confirmed by Iranian state media. Trump has made clear that attacks on Iran will continue until "all of our objectives are achieved".
'Not best placed to make that assessment'
Speaking to reporters on Monday afternoon at a post-Cabinet press conference, Luxon said: "New Zealand has consistently condemned the Iranian regime."
"We condemn in the strongest terms Iran’s indiscriminate, retaliatory attacks in the Gulf ... We cannot risk further regional escalation and civilian life must be protected," Luxon said.
When asked if the Government would designate the IRGC as a terrorist entity, Luxon said the process around terrorism designation was different and was separate from this event, "but suffice to say I think we’ll have a decision on that very shortly”.
And when asked if the Government would move to expel the Iranian ambassador, Luxon said no.
Asked if there was a breach of international law, Luxon told reporters: “We’re not best placed to make that assessment. We weren’t proxy or party to these attacks. They were independently launched by the US and Israel.”
“They all have information and intelligence that we haven’t received … So it’s really up for them to assert whether these are legal actions or not."
"You've seen that with the UN Security Council, where they have invoked Article 51 about self-defence ... It's ultimately for them to make that assessment and to explain their position," Luxon said.
"We’ve had a long-standing commitment under successive governments that any actions that stops Iran from getting a nuclear weapon is a good thing … Any actions that stops them from killing their own people is a good thing."
"This is not a good regime and that has been a long-standing position of New Zealand governments under different administrations.”
Challenged by reporters about his use of "any actions" and asked if New Zealand would support "carpet bombing the country", Luxon said he was not saying that.
"I don't know how to be any clearer ... We've long supported actions under our governments, under successive political parties, that actually stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons."
But Labour's Chris Hipkins, who spoke to reporters after Luxon's post-Cabinet press conference, said: “We need to see an immediate de-escalation, a return to diplomacy and a return to the international rules based order that New Zealand has consistently advocated for in the past.”
“Successive New Zealand governments have expressed significant concern about the Iranian regime but that does not justify any action, particularly when it breaches international law,” Hipkins said.
"We do not support this action taken in Iran, the governing parties can speak for themselves.”
Economic impact
When it comes to the economic impact, Luxon told reporters New Zealand will have to “wait and see."
“The futures market opened just a couple of hours ago. It was quite a muted response,” Luxon told reporters at a post-Cabinet media conference on Monday.
“I think you’ve seen markets over subsequent weeks, with the build up of the American military presence in the region actually pricing it into their markets."
“OPEC (The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries) has been producing more oil over the last few weeks and recent months as well," he said.
“It looks like quite a muted response as we sit here today, with futures exchanges, which are a good indication of where it will go.”
ASB senior economist Kim Mundy said initial impacts for New Zealand will be contained to financial market moves, but "we are wary for what this may mean for the near-term outlook for inflation".
“It remains too early to make any concrete calls, but the risks are clearly skewed to the upside,” Mundy said.
“The conflict could lift tradeables inflation through a combination of higher global oil prices, and therefore higher prices at the pump, as well as a broad lift in the price of imports if the New Zealand dollar weakens further.”
Uncertainty at this stage remains elevated, Mundy said.
“But the prospect for higher tradeable inflation could be problematic when headline inflation is already sitting above target."
“Further, business confidence data released last week highlighted that pricing pressures remain elevated, which provides another challenge to the RBNZ’s forecast for inflation to drift back towards the 2% midpoint of the inflation target," Mundy said.
Mundy said this should be considered food for thought and they were withholding from making any firm conclusions at this stage.
“For now, our thoughts are with everyone caught up in the conflict.”
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This is physical dilemma. Not enough low-entropy energy stocks left to assuage what is therefore a grossly-overshot global population.
We have benefited by hanging on the coattails of the biggest planetary thug since WW2. All the while telling ourselves a self-congratulatory alt narrative.
Now we appear to be doubling down on that; a pathetic response with the moral fortitude of a
middle order suit.
The reality is what any politician, or anyone else for that matter, thinks about this war from the south east end of the line is immaterial, irrelevant and unimportant internationally speaking. The sad side of that though is that NZ, still a young nation, has sent participants up that very same line to fight outstandingly well, and sacrificially so too, for the freedom of other nations and against unwarranted oppression. The old idiom that when elephants fight the grass gets trampled is still modern enough and that includes, too of course, pygmies.
Luxon is probably the last person anyone should listen to about anything.
Aye, from senior executive in a conglomerate soap company to CEO of a remote and minor airline has proven to be ill suited credentials for politics. Ordinarily that would be ascertained during an apprenticeship of a couple of parliamentary terms, but to emerge out of the first one as a prime minister is unprecedented and for good reason. Underneath it all would suggest that he is simply not a natural politician which in truth, is no great fault either, if you think about it.
Luxon comes across to me as a useful suit that happened to be offered a path to PM and jumped at it as something good to have on the CV for his next job. He doesn't seem to have any real conviction about anything beyond his public image.
I've some indignation that a competent exec could be seen suitable and make the move so seamlessly to our top position - but then look at the US and see that it could be far worse.
Iran figured out something the Pentagon still has not.
You do not need to close a strait. You just need to make it uninsurable
The USS Abraham Lincoln carries enough Tomahawks to sink every IRGC patrol boat in 48 hours. Operation Praying Mantis crippled Iran’s operational naval forces in eight hours in 1988. The Fifth Fleet has rehearsed this scenario for decades.
None of that matters. Aircraft carriers cannot force an underwriter to rewrite a policy. Tomahawks cannot lower a premium. The most powerful navy in human history cannot make a Lloyd’s syndicate decide that a VLCC transiting Iranian coastal waters represents an acceptable risk on a Saturday afternoon when missiles are landing in Dubai.
Goldman Sachs estimates Brent could peak at 110 dollars per barrel. JP Morgan projects 120 to 130. At those levels every airline bleeds cash. Every central bank watches three years of inflation fighting reignite overnight. Bypass pipelines from Saudi Arabia and the UAE handle roughly three million barrels. Hormuz handles twenty million. The math does not close.
Iran figured out something the Pentagon still has not.
You do not need to close a strait. You just need to make it uninsurable
It was the USA that needed to figure out the consequences of it's actions on the international oil price prior to the strike. IMO Netanyahu manipulated gullible Trump who was and is looking for any diversion away from his sex crimes involving minors.
'Iran figured out something the Pentagon still has not.' I reckon Iran calculated more likely was no USA strike because of the economic damage to the West, but don't underestimate some humans capacity for evil so here we go .. higher oil prices causing higher prices for most goods for months with increased inflation including in NZ.
They are eating the cats!
They are eating the dog!
And right now in the middle east the USA is kicking ass, and showing both Russia and China what it can do.
Nigel I think you are making your story fit your story?
Firstly, this is ALL about energy - and who gets it. (I suspect you're of the GND electrify and party on brigade?)
Try not eating, and keep a track of your daily energy output. Same with societies, as constructed. Fossil energy is the only thing good enough, and we've burned the best half already. And were trying to exponentially grow - so attempting a doubling-time. With the last half...
As for covering his sex trail - do you think he cares? There is zero empathy there, yet you associate cares? He has a right... is how he would see that.
Nope - Venezuela and Iran, and Iraq before and the Nordstream disruption - are all about access to that without which nothing happens.
Trouble is, if you don't understand that, you're left casting around for things which might fit your mental model.
Wow- so off the mark!
"So it’s really up for them to assert whether these are legal actions or not."
Interesting take for the law and order party? I can see a massive opportunity for cost cutting in our legal system here.
Astute observation.
The way I look at this, is binary. Either we have an international law/rules based system or we do not.
What I'm seeing play out resembles the school yard tough making up the rules along the way to protect their position to dominate and abuse.
But there again, I've long been sceptical of the sugar coated role the US plays in the world.
More proof that humans are just one biological organism occupying a niche on planet earth, pursuing Darwin's survival of the fittest theory. But in reality orchestrating the organisms own demise by over population and extraction.
Historically and presently there appears to have been a strong compulsion in humans to consider that being the last one standing is to be victorious. Or to put it another way, the last lemming to go over the cliff wins.
Indeed. The US fascade now appears less Gilligan from Gilligans Island and more hybrid Dr Strangelove, Aunt Lydia and Bernie Madoff.
The Elite know we're running a temporary arrangement.
Hence the end scenes from 'Don't Look Up'.
Lou. The rules based system has for a very long time been a construct, paid lip service to by the powerful but ignored when it suits their interests. All the great powers are guilty of the same cynical duplicity, not just the commonly singled out US. Even as supposed idealists such as Helen Clark and Prof Patman splutter in outrage at the latest visible transgression of the RBO rules they are well aware clandestine soft power projection to coerce the policies and direction of other nations, is a routine function of most developed countries.
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