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Reserve Bank decides to leave the Official Cash Rate unchanged due to the uncertainty the new outbreak of Covid brings

Reserve Bank decides to leave the Official Cash Rate unchanged due to the uncertainty the new outbreak of Covid brings

The Reserve Bank (RBNZ) has left the Official Cash Rate unchanged at 0.25% in the light of the Covid outbreak.

One of the most anticipated interest rate reviews since the beginning of the Official Cash Rate in 1999 was thrown into chaos after the news on Tuesday that NZ would be going into a hard lockdown following emergence of Covid Delta cases in the community.

Local economists, who had been unanimous in the view that the RBNZ would hike the OCR in response to a rapidly heating economy were suddenly split, with some thinking the central bank might wait and see how the current Covid situation went. And wait is what the RBNZ did.

It is fair to say that without the constant threat of Covid, and what a long disruption could do to the economy, rising interest rates would be a one way bet. Indeed the forecasts with the new Monetary Policy Statement (MPS) indicate that the RBNZ sees annual inflation rising above 4% in the September quarter (the actual figure for June was 3.3%) and at least one rise in the OCR before the end of this year. 

The RBNZ sees the OCR being over 1.5% by the end of next year. That's sharply up from its previous MPS in May, which forecast the OCR only starting to move up from the middle of 2022 and not reaching 1.5% till the end of 2023.

This sentiment is borne out by these two key paragraphs from the monetary policy assessment put out by Governor Adrian Orr:

"The [Monetary Policy] Committee agreed they are confident of meeting their inflation and employment remit with less need for the existing level of monetary stimulus. However, the Committee remains alert to the supply disruptions that Covid-19 can create, and the dampening effect this can have on confidence. House prices are also above their sustainable level, heightening the risk of a price correction as supply increases.

"The Committee agreed that their least regrets policy stance is to further reduce the level of monetary stimulus so as to anchor inflation expectations and continue to contribute to maximum sustainable employment. They agreed, however, to keep the OCR unchanged at this meeting given the heightened uncertainty with the country in a lockdown."

ASB chief economist Nick Tuffley said ASB's view is  – based heavily on the current lockdown being short enough to cause little long-term damage –  that the RBNZ will lift the OCR 25bp in October, November and February to 1%, before gradually nudging up to 1.5% by the end of 2022. 

"This is very much a light pencilling in of an outlook and should be taken as a rough guide that can change quickly as the situation unfolds," he says.

"NZ’s past short lockdowns have had very modest lasting economic impacts.  But Australia’s situation is a warning that events can quickly spiral out of control.  The evolution of this outbreak will be a very important influence on the RBNZ’s actions over the rest of this year.  A prolonged lockdown means a greater likelihood of a much later (and potentially softer) tightening cycle."

Westpac's head of strategy Imre Speizer said the wholesale interest rate markets and foreign exchange markets had this reaction:

"In response to today’s announcement, the two-year swap rate fell from 1.21% to 1.18 %, 10-year swap rates fell from 1.90% to 1.88%, and the 2031 NZGB [NZ Govt Bond] yield fell from 1.62% to 1.58%. In currency markets, NZD/USD quickly fell from US$0.6940 to US$0.6870 but is settling around US$0.6910, and AUD/NZD rose from 1.0460 to 1.0542 but settling around 1.0500. Given the tightening cycle has merely been delayed, further dovish reactions are unlikely."

This is the statement from the Reserve Bank:

The Monetary Policy Committee agreed to retain the current stimulatory level of monetary settings, keeping the Official Cash Rate (OCR) at 0.25 per cent for now. Today’s decision was made in the context of the Government’s imposition of Level 4 COVID restrictions on activity across New Zealand. 

The Committee will assess the inflation and employment outlook on an ongoing basis, with a view to continue to reduce the level of monetary stimulus over time so as to best meet their policy remit. This follows the recent halting of additional government bond purchases under the Large Scale Asset Purchase (LSAP) programme in July.  

Global monetary and fiscal settings remain at accommodative levels, supporting international spending and investment. Rising vaccination rates across many countries have provided economic impetus. The rise in activity has continued to support demand and prices for New Zealand’s export commodities.

However, the need to reinstate COVID-19 containment measures in some regions highlights the serious health and economic risks posed by the virus. Persistent and elevated health risks are promoting ongoing global supply chain disruptions, and are acting to constrain productive capacity and prolong inflationary pressures. Today’s re-introduction of Level 4 restrictions to activity across New Zealand is a stark example of how unpredictable and disruptive the virus is proving to be.

The Committee noted that the New Zealand economy had rebounded more strongly than most countries, with less domestic disruption caused by COVID-19 to date. Employment is currently at or above its maximum sustainable level, and consumer price inflation expectations remain anchored near 2 percent, the midpoint of the target range.  

Recent data for the New Zealand economy suggest demand is robust and the economic recovery has broadened, despite some weakness persisting in the sectors most exposed to international tourism. Household spending and construction activity are at high levels and continue to grow, and business investment is responding to increased demand.

Capacity pressures are now evident in the economy, particularly in the labour market where job vacancies remain high despite the recent decline in unemployment and underemployment. Wages are rising consistent with the tight labour market conditions.

Broader inflation pressures are being accentuated in the near-term by one-off price rises such as higher oil prices, and temporary factors such as supply shortfalls and higher transport costs. Near-term consumer price inflation is expected to rise above the Committee’s target range before returning towards the 2 percent midpoint around mid-2022.

The Committee agreed they are confident of meeting their inflation and employment remit with less need for the existing level of monetary stimulus. However, the Committee remains alert to the supply disruptions that COVID-19 can create, and the dampening effect this can have on confidence. House prices are also above their sustainable level, heightening the risk of a price correction as supply increases.

The Committee agreed that their least regrets policy stance is to further reduce the level of monetary stimulus so as to anchor inflation expectations and continue to contribute to maximum sustainable employment. They agreed, however, to keep the OCR unchanged at this meeting given the heightened uncertainty with the country in a lockdown.

This is the summary record of the meeting of the RBNZ's Monetary Policy Committee:

The Monetary Policy Committee discussed economic developments since the May Statement. The Committee noted that the global economy has continued to recover, supported by rising vaccination rates in many countries, a gradual relaxation of mobility restrictions, and continued monetary and fiscal support.

The Committee noted the considerable uncertainty that exists regarding the longer-run impacts of COVID-19, particularly with the emergence of new variants. Globally, periods of health-related mobility restriction are likely to continue for some time, creating ongoing short-term economic disruptions, supply cost pressures, and lower productive capacity.  

The Committee agreed that in New Zealand the recent economic data suggest domestic demand is robust and that the economic recovery has broadened in recent months. While weakness still persists in sectors most heavily exposed to international tourism, activity in most industries now exceeds pre-COVID levels.

Domestic economic activity has been underpinned by strong household spending, high levels of construction, and strong demand for New Zealand’s commodity exports. Recent data has also shown a pick-up in business investment, which broadens the base of aggregate demand and suggests businesses are responding to emerging capacity constraints.

The Committee noted uncertainty related to the emergence of new cases of COVID-19 in the community and the move back into Alert Level 4. The reinstatement of the Government Wage Subsidy Scheme and COVID-19 Resurgence Support Payments is expected to significantly buffer the loss of income associated with the lockdown.

The Committee agreed that capacity constraints were building in the economy. Pressures are particularly acute in the labour market, where job vacancies remain high alongside declines in unemployment. Falling underemployment provides a greater level of confidence that spare capacity is being absorbed. Employment is assessed as being at or above its maximum sustainable level in the current environment.

Wage inflation has increased in line with the tightening in the labour market, but the Committee expressed uncertainty about whether higher wage growth will be sustained.

The Committee noted that capacity constraints are contributing to rising headline inflation. Mirroring global developments, inflationary pressure in New Zealand has been accentuated in the near term by one-off factors such as higher oil prices, and temporary factors such as supply shortfalls and rising transport costs. This is expected to push inflation above 4 percent in the near-term, before returning towards the 2 percent midpoint of the target band from mid-2022. Medium and long-term inflation expectations remain anchored at 2 percent.

The Committee reflected that experience over the past 12 months has provided more confidence about the resilience of domestic demand in the face of health-related restrictions. The Government Wage Subsidy proved effective in supporting domestic incomes and providing job security through periods of lockdown, which has enabled a rapid recovery in consumer spending. This scheme has been rapidly reinstated in light of the current lockdown. While some households suffered income losses and accumulated debt, many households retain a larger buffer of savings, which could provide ongoing support to consumption.

The Committee acknowledged that restrictions on the movement of people across the New Zealand border will only be removed gradually, and subject to ongoing health-related uncertainty. However, they also agreed that, to date, increased domestic spending has provided a significant offset to the loss of international tourism earnings. The closure of the border has also reduced international labour mobility, creating capacity shortages in some industries that have traditionally been reliant on migrant labour.

In light of this experience, members expressed caution about the level of remaining supply capacity in the New Zealand economy. The economic disruption caused by the ongoing global health issues has increased skill mismatches, which has likely reduced maximum sustainable employment in the near term. The Committee discussed the risk that the productive capacity of the economy is lagging domestic demand, which could lead to more persistent inflation pressure.

The Committee discussed the current, and risk of future, outbreaks of COVID-19 in New Zealand, and how monetary policy should respond. The Committee agreed that fiscal policy (government spending and transfer payments) has proved to be a very effective tool to respond to any immediate reduction in demand in the event of outbreaks. A monetary policy response may be required if a health-related lockdown has a more enduring impact on inflation and employment.

As required by their Remit, members assessed the impact of monetary policy on the Government’s objective to support more sustainable house prices. The Committee noted the Reserve Bank’s assessment that the level of house prices is currently unsustainable. Members noted that the Reserve Bank is currently consulting on further bank lending restrictions to help mitigate the financial stability risks associated with unsustainable house prices.

The Committee noted that a number of factors are expected to weigh on house prices over the medium term. These include strong house building, slower population growth, changes to tax settings, and the ongoing impacts of tighter bank lending rules. Rising mortgage interest rates, as monetary stimulus is reduced, would also constrain house prices to a more sustainable level.  Members expressed uncertainty about how quickly momentum in the housing market will recede and noted a risk that any continued near-term price growth could lead to sharper falls in house prices in the future.

The Committee reiterated that the OCR is currently the preferred tool to adjust the level of stimulus in the economy. The principles governing the suite of monetary policy tools will continue to guide their use. In line with those principles, the Funding for Lending Programme (FLP) will remain in place under its current terms until the drawdown window expires next year. The Committee directed staff to develop an operational strategy to help inform decisions regarding the management of Government and Local Government Funding Agency (LGFA) bonds purchased under the Large Scale Asset Purchase (LSAP) programme, consistent with the Committee’s desired stance of policy and supporting the functioning of markets.

The Committee discussed the stance of monetary policy. Members noted that they now had more confidence that rising capacity pressures will feed through into inflation, and that employment is at its maximum sustainable level. Members concluded that they could continue removing monetary stimulus, following their decision to halt additional purchases of Government bonds under the LSAP programme at their July meeting.

The Committee discussed the merits of an increase in the OCR at this meeting and considered the implications of alternative sequencing of OCR changes over time. The Committee agreed that their least regrets policy stance is to further reduce monetary policy stimulus to reduce the risk that inflation expectations become unanchored. However in light of the current Level 4 lockdown and health uncertainty the Committee agreed to leave the OCR unchanged at this meeting.

On Wednesday 18 August, the Committee reached a consensus to:

  • Maintain the OCR at 0.25 percent;
  • Direct staff to develop an operational strategy to inform decisions on the management of Government and LGFA bonds purchased under the LSAP programme; and
  • Maintain the existing Funding for Lending Programme conditions.

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Housing really is going to go to the moon...

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....and NZ to hell.

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Today's OCR decision not unexpected - and sensible/cautionary.

Those anticipating (and hoping for) a major resurgence in house prices are likely to be disappointed........

Holding the OCR at this point won't have a strong impact on the housing market.

TTP

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I disagree. A lift of 50 BPs today followed by a couple more lifts this year could have helped put the breaks on the housing market.

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Are you aware raised interest rates effect business as well a? Its not all about housing.

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So true, many people on here can't see past their own noses and their own skin in the game. Imagine if we went back to 4% too quickly. Sure, it would flatten house prices for a while as the sheep get spooked but it would shock the wider financial sector and then people would start blaming the Govt/RBNZ for that, too.

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What is the "wider financial sector" and why should we care?

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IMO FOMO and panic buying could lead to another bump in house prices after lockdown. NZ is no different to other countries who also panic buy toilet paper just like NZ, even though it is totally irrational. Irrational also describes the housing market

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Note that toilet paper depreciates rapidly.......

TTP

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Lasts longer than some of our houses :)

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And it will. 1m nationwide median here we go.

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I think we'll see another round of price inflation. Never bet against rising house prices in New Zealand, it's a widow trade. Buy and HODL.

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House prices will continue to climb regardless of interest rates. It's determined by the amount of credit the banks create. Interest rates don't necessarily determine that.

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Interest rates dont affect the amount of credit in the system? Of course they do. As rates increase, servicing ask increases and therefore maximum borrowings decrease.

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Oh right like 2002 to 2007 100 percent asset inflation and rates at 8 percent. The low rate high growth, high rate low growth is a false narrative. Banks created insane amounts of credit during that time we had massive growth.

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Did you miss the part where house prices are seen as unsustainable, warranting additional macro-prudential handling? In my view, this outbreak and the associated delay in OCR liftoff will lead to lower house prices overall than the base-case scenario would have. Marginal buyers are a dying breed, and do not represent housing valuation by the majority (you know, the sane, rational ones). The tide is very high and the lunar orbit remains unchanged.

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"Marginal buyers are a dying breed"
I rang two valuers for a house valuation this week and almost the first thing both said after Hello was, when do you want it... which was just a leading question for "it will take 14 working days". I thought to myself I am glad I am not in a hurry, which I did not dare verbalise in case they took it the wrong way.
Basically valuers seem to be run off their little skates

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House, food and internet = the future

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What’s troubling me is not what RBNZ did today, they probably did what I would call a reasonable decision based on today’s facts. The problem I have with the banks is they’re always been leading the hikes and lagging the OCR drops. They’re the biggest beneficiaries of record low rates - each one of them posting record profits. Much worse they’ve fuelled speculation by irresponsible lending. They have never and will not learn responsible lending because they know they’ll be bailed out by RBNZ – which RBNZ has to be blamed for.

The bottom line is interventionist RBNZ has suspended price discovery of risk across all asset classes.

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The only bank to increase floating rates out of cycle was Kiwibank, when no one followed them down. The recent 'hikes' in fixed rates are reflective of massively increased wholesale/swap rates. Banks need fixed rate funding when doing fixed rate lending, only a muppet would borrow all at floating (OCR) and lend out at fixed.

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Hopefully the thugs, ANZ who have been leading the market with increases and screaming higher OCR, start reversing some of the increases. There needs to be some investigation on how much money they are making as the OCR cuts are not passed on but hint of increasesb passed fully. Don't know why I bank with those thugs. Btw some if these economist need to lose their jobs too.

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After lockdown and delta variant spreading in community, OCR on hold is fine but as raising concern of unsustainable housing market, Why repeating earlier mistake and not taking steps to control like changing LVR and DTI besides restricting Interest Only loan for new purchases.

Though bad but am sure Orr's of NZ will be happy as ponzi not only continues but messiah of ponzi gets opportunity to support and promote.

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Good luck moderating this comment section.

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I think I have already been moderated!

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Confirms what we already know - bank economists are morons.

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Not morons. Slaves to their paymasters.

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Well, both. Because their pronouncements, advice and decisions are often simply dumb. And those things might please their paymasters, but it doesn't stop them being moronic.

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If you're talking about their expectation the OCR would be raised, they nor the RBNZ expected covid would appear in the community a day prior.

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It's not about the last 2 days.
It's about their stated view of the economy over the next 12 months, which was very bullish and which gave very little consideration to the high likelihood of lockdowns.

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"Today’s re-introduction of Level 4 restrictions to activity across New Zealand is a stark example..." - Level 4 was re-introduced yesterday at 11.59pm. What are they smoking?

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The best cure for the Wuhanvirus is more trickle-down economics.

Property specufestors and homeowners line up now for another shot of "wealth effect" and use it to buy more houses.

Everybody else can get stuffed, pay taxes, and enjoy being $5k a week poorer. Kiwis expect it.

MIGHTY TANE MAHUTA HAS SPOKEN.

- Adrian Orr

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ANZ you can eat humble pie now.

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They might have to share it with you once the other banks follow suit.

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Well said, I'm not sure Flyer would even know what humble pie is.

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My pie contains a whole lot of capital gains that will only go up from here!

Thank you Mr Orr from an investor.

Update: Nom nom nom nom...

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As above, like other bank economists they are morons.
Have no understanding of risk and volatility, and basic modern economies.

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Breaking News

The Govt has announced that it will take immediate action over the recent ‘Specuvirus’ outbreak in NZ. This insidious virus is spreading rapidly throughout the country and causing great harm within our communities.

The main symptom of this ‘specuvirus’ is a complete disregard for the value of money, future generations and pretty much anyone but yourself.

The Govt is going to “go hard and go early” to “eliminate” this "virus" and will do whatever its needs to do to burst this “bubble”.

Anyone showing symptoms of the “specuvirus” should self isolate immediately, stay off internet banking, property websites and chat rooms.

Together our “team of 5 million” can beat this “specuvirus” and give our kids a brighter future. And remember, "Be Kind".

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Loved it!

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Take me to specuvirus MIQ right now! LOL

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Is that statement a copy-paste from the latest one? With just few sentences added re the new lockdown.
My bet was on 0 or 0.25 a week ago, so not really surprised that the outbreak scared the highly esteemed governor.
Will the other big banks join ANZ and up their rates anyway?
Also, are we gonna get to 200+ comments?

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"Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

Be quick!

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Feel free to update your slogan to "Have rich parents!"

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Let's inherit this!

Arohaha.

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“Feel free to update your slogan to "Have rich parents!"

Not necessary rich parents, just parents who naturally do for their kids, not to hand them the money or a free house but to assist financially and guide them so the kids can inherit and pass on. All part of the big picture when people start a family…..you’d assume.

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"We must also not allow inequality to take hold in our recovery. In fact, we need to take this opportunity to improve the prospects of all New Zealanders and tackle those long-standing divisions." - Grant M. Roberston

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Robbo symbolizes much of what is wrong with political grooming and careerism

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To the young people of this nation....suck eggs..and remember to pay the bill when you leave

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Yeah, worst time for the younger generations, they are facing climate changes, getting hit hard by delta variant, also complete locked out from owning their own houses. It's truly sad for young people in this country.

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What Mr Orr is trying to say is, this is a dog eat dog world. If you aren't on the boat, good luck.

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This is why those not on the boat should tell princess to shove her lockdown where the sun doesn't shine. The "team of five million" is only a team when it suits them.

Besides the virus spreads well on boats and should make light work of clearing the decks.

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She's a phoney.

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Some people will pretend to care just so they can get a better seat to watch your struggle. Every helping hand isn’t always there to help.
Top notch phoney

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Did I dream what happened after the last lvl 4 lockdown ? This is such a cop out, although based on Robertsons statement earlier in the day not unexpected.
Welcome to inflationville.

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Covid saves the day for them. It was predicable and the only thing that would have prevented a rate rise was a covid outbreak...
I now expect house prices could rise another 15 % by the end of the year and the average house price in NZ to get close to a million.

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In other words, free money by doing absolutely nothing.

This highlights one thing - those in authority will always try to protect their interests and friends.

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Meanwhile business owners selling labour in industries not in the building game say stuff this and shut down making all staff redundant.

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Okay, low interest rates are great for real businesses right now.
But if we leave the OCR here, the RBNZ better be bloody quick with those DTIs or the Auck median will be 1.3 mill by xmas.

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As an importer, anything bought in USD has increased in price 1.5% in a day. Low interest rates ? As a small business we are at 7% on OD borrowings

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They aren't even consulting the DTI until Oct, LOL. Nothing will happen this side of Christmas.

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Yep nothing this side of Xmas on DTIs.
And potentially no OCR increase either, or at most 25 BPs if the lockdown isn't as long as I think it will be (2-3 weeks)

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Wow. He didn't cut. What a brave leader.

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Nice take Rosey

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How could he - the RBNZ's neutral interest rate (R*) witchcraft claims:

The OCR is below the neutral interest rate
Based on our suite of indicators, we estimate the nominal neutral interest rate to be about 2 percent, compared to our current OCR of 0.25 percent. While there is always a degree of uncertainty in the neutral interest rate estimate, this uncertainty – as reflected in the wide range of estimates from our suite – is heightened currently due to the impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic (figure 4.8). However, we are confident the current level of the OCR is below the neutral interest rate, consistent with the pace of the economic recovery and the OCR being below even the lowest indicator in the suite. Link (page 31 (35 of 52)

Curves Need No R-star; Economists Need R* To Decode Curves

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I was clearly underestimating RBNZ's shortsightedness and incompetence, when I thought today that Orr would still go for a 25 basis points increase.
He does not want to see or he does not appear to understand that kicking the can down the road a little longer is only going to make the problem worse later on, so that he will be forced to raise rates even higher than otherwise would have been necessary.
He also appears to be completely oblivious to the risks posed to the financial system by an already ridiculously mis-priced and overinflated housing Ponzi that he helped create.
Let the fools dance a little longer until the music stops.
The RBNZ's incompetence is eye-watering.

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Although they keep saying RBNZ operate independently from the government, however, government still can influence RBNZ's decision through this pandemic. Decision of level 4 lockdown and financial support can bring huge influence to RBNZ's monetary policy. It shows government can gain much power in a time of crisis.

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In effect RBNZ is just a Government entity like any other. The Guv' might as well be called "Minister of Reserve Banking."

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The idea that Anglosphere central banking is independent of govt is a total myth and con.

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Exactly. Total BS.
Just like when the public service talks of providing free and frank advice to minister- they often don't.
It's all smoke and mirrors. Borderline corrupt.

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Here for my daily glass of whine

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Doesn't suit my palate, I like it a bit dry, but not so bitter.

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As a residential investor I welcome the prudence and restraint the Reserve Bank is showing in not allowing itself to be influenced by temporary fluctuations in CPI or unemployment numbers. Rising house prices show the Reserve Banks is doing a Sterling job.

All aboard the property market, next stop the moon!

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The reserve bank really is an organisation that couldn't make the right decision if it bit them in the ar...

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Without the lockdown - it was a definite hike - its all in the last 2 paragraphs

The Committee discussed the stance of monetary policy. Members noted that they now had more confidence that rising capacity pressures will feed through into inflation, and that employment is at its maximum sustainable level. Members concluded that they could continue removing monetary stimulus, following their decision to halt additional purchases of Government bonds under the LSAP programme at their July meeting.

The Committee discussed the merits of an increase in the OCR at this meeting and considered the implications of alternative sequencing of OCR changes over time. The Committee agreed that their least regrets policy stance is to further reduce monetary policy stimulus to reduce the risk that inflation expectations become unanchored. However in light of the current Level 4 lockdown and health uncertainty the Committee agreed to leave the OCR unchanged at this meeting.

Note the following points
1. Employment is at maximum sustainable level ( OCR hike would normally be taken)
2. Capacity constraints are causing inflation (OCR hikes will be needed to ease capacity constraints)
3. Committee agrees reduction of monetary stimulus is now required (which would mean hiking the OCR)
4. In light of Level 4 lockdown (need to see what this will mean first)
5. The OCR is unchanged at this meeting (but once covid is under control again ie by next meeting we will be hiking the OCR)

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Spot on with the analysis. The forex markets have (eventually, after some short-sighted throwing of toys) come to the exact same conclusion.

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Yeah, lockdown saved the speculators.... For now....

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haha, wow, what a surprise...

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Selfishly speaking, this is good for me as I come off my one year mortgage in late October and the fewer OCR rises before then the better in terms of re-financing.
But for the overall country, it's a disaster.

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too late the banks have begun hiking already - ANZ is up .40% since the beginning of July. Banks arent required to wait until the OCR lifts to increase their interest rates.

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But it's now unlikely the OCR will be up 1.5% by year's end.
And some of those hikes might drop down a touch.

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nobody predicted 1.5% by year end most have predicted interest rates will rise by 1.5% by this time next year ie mid 2022 - the OCR would only need to lift 1.1% to achieve this. providing lockdown is short and sharp it will be

.25% in Sept
.25% in Nov
.25% in Feb
.25% in May
.25% in July

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I think this lockdown will be a longer one unfortunately.

An infectious teacher who has been teaching at school, and another infectious person going to church.

We are sh*t out of luck this time.

I suspect this came in when everyone rushed to get back from Oz and guess what, presented with symptoms after their pre-departure and arrival tests. Dumb move by the government to let people rush back in.

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Yep,really dumb.
Our luck is up, it was always going to happen, and people making their stupid predictions should have known that.

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And guess what? Ardern's "be kind" mantra to give a 7 day window to come back without MIQ has screwed us up big time.

Thanks Jacinda, your kindness has really paid off.

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yes I think that 7 day period letting people back from aussie was a mistake, in a few weeks we will know the price.
These people were told they could get stuck over there but were let back.

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You believe it's been circulating in the community for months without being detected?

Not a chance. Take off the tin foil hat.

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You don't have proof, I don't either, only speculating.

No tin foil hat here.

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Spreading for a month without hitting one person that got tested, or sick enough to need treatment? That's winning powerball with your first lotto ticket ever sort of odds.

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No I think 'a month' would be quite possible.

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The math is on my side. With an R rate of ~7 in an unvaccinated and unlocked down population for months.

They would have been dropping like flies long ago.

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Should have been detected in the wastewater, so unlikely.

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Hendy has just been quoted as saying it could have been circulating for weeks

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First documented case 3 August and could easily have been earlier.

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It's unlikely be short and sharp. Probably at least 2-3 weeks.

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WAIT

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NZ Dividend ETF had a 0.5% lift

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"The Committee noted the Reserve Bank’s assessment that the level of house prices is currently unsustainable."

There is a nauseating stench of hypocrisy about that statement. When the RB slashed the OCR to 0.25%, they were very well aware of just what the effect on house prices would be but that was discounted under their 'least regrets' policy. Only now are they concerned about the financial instability implications.

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They don't really talk about financial instability. That's kind of a taboo subject.

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It really is quite astounding. I think Orr's take on financial stability is "do whatever it takes to ensure this doesn't blow up on my watch, even if it makes the problem worse in the long run"

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I don't think it's like that. He believes in his paradigm so much that he thinks that the banks are safe as houses. However, from where I see it, they believe that the NZ banking system is 100% bulletproof and can always be protected because of the RBNZ's existence. I cannot argue against that. I'm not smart enough or knowledgeable enough. I'm not aware of anyone who can.

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They know no other way. Those who have a bit of capital behind them and secure job may as well jump on board. Poor FHB trying to compete with them.

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There never was going to be a rate rise.
They can't do it. Stability is the mandate. The edifice must be propped up at all costs.
There is no amount of inflation or property speculation that will push rates up. Covid is irrelevant.

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Speaking of economists and forecasters, their forecast has never been better than a flip of a coin, and any economist worth their soul would admit that in private. Their forecasting is as good as my 6 yo son who can extrapolate any graph I ask him to, and in long run would probably match the record of PhD economists

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They should also admit with caveats in public. That would make them look less stupid.
An increase of 1.5% to the OCR as predicted by many would seemingly depend on no covid outbreaks, which was always going to be unlikely. This should have been factored in to their forecasts, which would have limited OCR lift forecasts to 1 BP, and/or strongly caveated their forecasts.

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Absolutely ridiculous. Your 6 year old son would easily be able to match the record of PhD economists. I suspect just by guessing he would have a greater hit rate.

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Well, glass half full. No new printing costs needed for the guff, neat avoidance of awkward optics at presentation, and the housing CG ramp continues into Buzz Light-year territory. A Trifecta of goodness for the RB. Pity about the rest of us, but, ya know, eggs, omelettes.....

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So the housing bubble party will continue and Adern has vowed that house prices will never fall.
Young Kiwis, most of you will never be able to own a home here and your best hope for the future is to leave the country as soon as you can and forget New Zealand.

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"Be kind" fixes all problems I thought?

Does it not?

Oh boy.

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Got flyer...can you comment anything else?

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I am one trick pony, you are sh*t out of luck ;)

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I said it once, and i'll say it again. This NZ government is completely incompetent.

Their 100% elimination strategy only was prescribed to those who were less fortunate (on visas). Those who were not (NZ citizens, PR) were able to freely fly around the world as they pleased. People's families were separated for more than 18 months and made huge sacrifices to ensure we don't get COVID; while they allowed NZ citizens and PR's fly around catching DELTA from all different countries and bringing it into the country. It is now clear that the DELTA variant was brought in from someone who came back from NSW. Why the heck would we let people come into NZ from AU? What happened to our water-tight borders? Oh, it's only water-tight when it SUITS them. There can still be leaks available for those who are wealthy, or have special privilege's.

Honestly, F this government and F this prejudice and discrimination that they mandate. I honestly don't even care about lockdowns anymore because all they care about is protecting those who they want to take care of. Team of 5 million? Total BS. More like "Team of those who are lucky enough to benefit from this government". Everyone else suffers on their behalf.

Good luck to the small businesses, the people who are on visas, and all those whom are less fortunate taking on the full weight of this situation so that Jacinda and her beloved ones benefit off our backs.

The T&C's of "Be Kind*":
1. Must be a NZ citizen
2. Must be a PR
3. Must be Rich
* Does not apply to anyone else outside these categories

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Elimination is indeed futile. New Zealand needs to let go of its oversized ego and phoney exceptionalism.

Give vaccines to those who want it over the next few months and then let it rip. We can fix our housing, obesity and anti-vaxx problems in one go.

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New Zealand needs to let go of its oversized ego and phoney exceptionalism.

I agree. The phony exceptionalism needs to be buried. The All Blacks and events like the Americas Cup don't help. The rest of the world doesn't really care about how good the ABs are or how we punch above our weight in sailing.

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New Zealand needs to let go of its oversized ego and phoney exceptionalism.

I agree. The phony exceptionalism needs to be buried. The All Blacks and events like the Americas Cup don't help. The rest of the world doesn't really care about how good the ABs are or how we punch above our weight in sailing.

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I think that's largely the plan - start opening up once vaccines are rolled out. In the mean time elimination is a clear goal - remember that year we just had with complete freedom while the rest of the world was in varying states of lock down? It was awkward talking to my overseas family because we had it so good here.

The exceptionalism over covid was completely justified and we should strive to maintain our point of difference until vaccines have to been given to anyone who wants them.

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You're on the money here.
Most people inside of my social circle would strongly disagree with your point bringing endless excuses of why we're better than everyone else tho. But yeah, the reality check will come sooner or later.

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Well there's pros and cons both ways.
I still think overall the pros of NZ's approach outweigh the cons.
And btw - I wasn't a fan of lockdowns to begin with, I came around.

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You're all a bunch of Fiat Zombies lol :)

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Thank the Lord for Covid....a little raise in OCR would make over borrowed suicidal...Kill off far more than Covid. But what the heck Jacinda can print and declare ...Sod the Savers.....I got this....Orr am I mis-taken.

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The RBNZ is snookering any future pandemic health response. By ensuring young hardworking kiwis will never be able to afford a home to isolate in, always be sharing dwellings with flat mates and the poor will have to live in overcrowded squaller. Clearly they have fuelled inflation and insane prices for essential items like shelter and food compared to average NZ salaries due to their actions post COVID. Now their inaction speaks volumes that they don’t care about hardworking kiwis.

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Are all major banks going to bring back their rates after "factoring in" the suspected increase in the interests they charge to their customers? This is just pushing even further inequality and profiting the same ones as always.

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No because the banks didnt lift the rates in anticipation of an OCR increase (only the MSM reported that) they increased them to

1. Cover their recent wholesale rate increases (which are determined globally)
2. To cover their capital requirements. Most banks lifted both their term deposits and mortgage rates simultaneously. Banks are finding that deposits have declined in recent months and they need to attract savers back with higher term deposits. They need to do this in order to have enough capital to meet the capital ratios required by the RBNZ (banks must hold so many deposits against their loan books to prevent going bankrupt if loans default). In order to cover the costs of paying out interest to their savers- they charge more interest on loans.

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If the banks had anticipated the OCR- they would have lifted their variable interest rates.

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Looks like a bit of wishful thinking IMO, this usually does not happen and it is a common practice in capitalist economies that private companies reflect price increases right to their customers and keep prices even when provider prices have gone down, the petrol sector is a good example of this too.

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Interest rate on hold....ok......what about LVR and DTI .....

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LVR and DTI were never going to be used except as talking points to extend an intention to do nothing Orr said years ago when he started he would do whatever it takes to support house prices and has obviously not changed his thinking since this is strictly a one trick pony .

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Well I called it right 2 days back :
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by Contrarian | 16th Aug 21, 8:12pm

I am going with the Zero. Especially with the Christmas and the Wedding coming and the Vaccination stalling and Aussie getting worse. Inflation is the least concerning issue right now. Banks are drum rolling that scare. RBNZ should know that. Action man will go Passive this time, methinks.

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Good call

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Great call, put some money on lotto this week.

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