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BNZ chief economist gives several reasons why curbs on offshore-based house buyers would be a good idea

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BNZ chief economist gives several reasons why curbs on offshore-based house buyers would be a good idea

A ban on offshore-based foreigners buying New Zealand houses would actually help to reduce "societal discord, fragmentation and outright racism", according to BNZ chief economist Tony Alexander.

Alexander recently said that he thought that curbs on offshore-based buyers purchasing houses in NZ would be in place within two to three years.

And in his latest 'Sporadic' newsletter Alexander gives a number of reasons why he thinks such curbs would be a good idea.

One of the reasons is that Alexander believes they would help to reduce the aforementioned problems, including racism, which occur as people "blame foreigners for affordability issues and politicians seek power by exploiting such divisive nationalistic tendencies".

Other reasons cited by Alexander are:

  • To reduce upward pressure on house and land prices and therefore reduce the decline in housing affordability in New Zealand.
  • To help address the Reserve Bank’s concerns about financial sector instability potentially stemming from any big downward correction to Auckland house prices perhaps in the context of a deep economic shock.
  • To reduce the incidence of lowly-occupied dwellings or neighbourhoods where people buy property as an investment but never occupy it.
  • To boost the chances that development land will be developed for housing rather than land banked to await capital gain over a possibly long time period.
  • To reduce Reserve Bank reliance on non-conventional tools to slow Auckland house price rises which disproportionately impact upon young buyers and now domestic investors. 

Alexander said he had been asked in one email why house sellers should be denied access to all the world’s potential buyers.

"My reply included the point that we deny Kiwi employers access to the world’s potential pool of cheap migrants through migration policy. We do so because we have a vision of what we want our society to look like and that vision does not include depressing wages to the lowest level the most desperate foreigner will accept. In the interests of fostering our particular society we limit the freedom of employers to choose.

"The same argument needs to be more rigorously applied to our home sellers who in this case are not seeking someone cheap, but someone expensive – willing to pay the highest price.

"Yet just as minimal wages destroys our community so too can sky-high property prices take away a key element of what we want our society to deliver – the ability of a young person to own their own house in the city which more Kiwis want to live in than any other."

Alexander said that another emailer had asked him why was it that many Chinese people were buying in New Zealand?  He answered with the following three points:

  1. The number of families in China in a position to consider purchasing an asset offshore has risen strongly in recent years as a result of China’s very strong sustained economic growth since 1978. It used to be just the wealthy, but now middle class people are buying. Chinese are in fact buying property all around the world.
  2. Many Chinese families have purchased a home for their children to live in while studying in New Zealand. Of the 110,198 overseas students in NZ in 2014 27% were from China.
  3. Many of the Chinese buying will already be living in New Zealand. Given that the household savings rate in China is about 30% whereas the NZ rate is 2% it is valid to conclude that it is highly likely Chinese migrants have more funds available to invest in housing, shares etc. than typical Kiwis who spend up large then buy Lotto tickets. 

Alexander reiterated again that whatever the current level of purchases by Chinese investors offshore, looking ahead there would be more buyers from China.

"China’s economy continues to grow thus more people are reaching the position of having sufficient wealth and knowledge to invest overseas. The Chinese government will eventually relax restrictions on Chinese people taking funds out of China. Worries about social, economic and financial stability in China will grow as the period of easy strong growth ends – a process currently underway – and people question the ability of their leaders to meet their rising lifestyle aspirations."

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After Oct 1 2015, we will have some answers. Hope the data is good.

And some comments on Tony's guess work:
1. Many Chinese families have purchased a home for their children to live in while studying in New Zealand -- this is not a total bxxxsxxx but very close to be one.

2. 'Many of the Chinese buying will already be living in New Zealand. Given that the household savings rate in China is about 30% whereas the NZ rate is 2% it is valid to conclude that it is highly likely Chinese migrants have more funds available to invest in housing, shares etc. than typical Kiwis who spend up large then buy Lotto tickets.' -- a personal choice thing so......?

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My advice is, do not hold your breath

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Xingmowang do I detect a touch of superiority in your post????

So I take it that all the Chinese money that has gone into Auckland houses is legitimately brought into the country given their high savings rate.....so no Chinese person would be concerned with their names being passed onto the Chinese Embassy officials to undertake a check that the money is not being laundered?!?!

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Superiority in what ways?. I am surprised you felt that way. Chinese should always be 2nd class citizen here.

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Bro, look at the history.Yeah Chinese can be second class. You'd slot in just above Maori...

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Oh, on that note, the Chinese should be the 3rd then.

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Actually cows feature pretty high in this country. Would you settle for a close 4th ? :)

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So now you want pity into the bargain!!! The 2nd class card won't work on me Xingmowang!!

You have stated that Kiwis don't save, they spend up large and buy lotto tickets and then compared savings rates without consideration of all the factors.....sounds deliberate to me!!

The average wage in China according to Trading Economics is CNY 56339 now convert that to NZD.......Don't go telling me that legal dosh is entering this country and buying houses simply because the people have a higher savings rate in China........

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Yes, there is a certain degree of superciliousness involved - read this
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=114…

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Inside China on housing'
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/housing-index

Inside China on taxes and social security etc
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/social-security-rate

Disposable income
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/disposable-personal-income

I think Xingmowang is pulling the wool on the financial side.....he knows damn well much of the recent Chinese money is not of the clean variety.....as you can't get enough of the clean dosh out of China......if he thinks he can divert attention from the actual happenings and make people look at themselves he knows this creates more time as people are distracted on themselves rather than what is actually happening.....

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Looks like for some suspicious reason about 10 mill in cash was leaving the country to HK, and a spare mill fell off the back of a truck....tax free income from renting out leaky buildings for cash??
Why would you physically transfer that in cash?? hope the IRD has their ears pricked up.
Oh, I see, won it at the Casino did we??

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Looks like some airport worker found himself a NZ house & citizenship package.

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Cathay Pacific loses bag containing $1m in NZ cash at Hong Kong airport

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=114…

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I am seeing definite obvious signs of this type of "investing" in Hamilton property now. If anyone heard Duncan Garner yesterday speaking to a Real Estate agent in Hamilton who spoke of the interest in the subdivisions in Hamilton coming from "out of towners and OVERSEAS INVESTORS". He also managed to say Asian buyers at one stage as well. I am picking that was a bit of a slip on his part, but nonetheless, he made it, it is out there now.
And he is right, unchecked, this is going to cause all sorts of tension problems

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Be good if we could channel this interest and spend up towards Whangarei.

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It will spread to Whangarei eventually.

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You got any kind of time frame on that? The pre-GFC orgy did well at sparking some life into Ruakaka by trying to build suburbia by the beach, but the central city could do with some of this free-flowing global capital.

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You got any kind of time frame on that? The pre-GFC orgy did well at sparking some life into Ruakaka by trying to build suburbia by the beach, but the central city could do with some of this free-flowing global capital.

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More like xenophobia than racism.

Racism - prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

Xenophobia - dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.

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Phobia means fear not dislike or prejudice.

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Slight nuance, phobia means "irrational fear".

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Knew someone would come back with that, just thought I would leave it for that someone to prove we are not xenophobic as well as not being racist, as the fear is not irrational, ask Singapore, ask Vancouver, ask Hong Kong even, ask Australia, ask nearly every country in the world with controls on foreign buyers, ask even various provinces within China itself.

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Doesn't need to be an irrational fear, but it may be, looks as though the "irrational" usage came about when Freud used it as a suffix
"originally "flight" (still the only sense in Homer), but it became the common word for "fear" via the notion of "panic, fright" (cf. phobein "put to flight, frighten")"

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You can't stop the development of Asia Pacific's major cities, esp Akl, NZ is a blip on the map economically.
The govt depends on inflows from housing (and asset sales) to prop up the sagging dairy returns and the industries that have been gutted over the last few decades.
They need to introduce various foreign buyer taxes, stamp duty, rules on foreign buyers, etc as espoused by many - think of all the tax they are missing out on! You and me will pay more tax and rates to cover IRD tax shortfalls.
Next will be the dairy land sales when the banks start to call in loans - who will be lined up then - China, America, Euro. JKs flag should be a lamb and cow to the slaughter.

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With the devaluing kiwi dollar it just makes it easier for foreigners, so if an Akl house has gone up $200k in the last year most foreigners wouldn't notice as the forex gain has covered them. When it goes even lower......
So make sure govt taxes are in place to get something from the deal. Plenty are in place internationally.
Love your neighbour, whomever they are.

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Agreed - as soon as the banks start to pull the plug on the farmers (won't be far off) the Chinese will swoop and buy up the cheap dairy farm assets.

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but if the asset is dropping in price and there is a milk mountain in china and other parts of the world are ramping up milk output, why "rush in"?

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Too late, they all rushed in hence the price decline - maybe land grabs disguised as farming endeavours are not what they seem.

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are the foreigners any worse than he big syndicates we have now , be interesting to know how many rural bankers and fonterra staff are involved in them

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Weren't the syndicates set up to pass off to the Chinese? Debt structures as disclosed by the RBNZ suggest as much.

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Lol we make it too easy

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Tony Alexander talks real sense here.

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Tony Alexander talks real sense here.

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