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ASB economists say last week's 'big lift' in wholesale interest rates added to the upside pressure on mortgage rates

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ASB economists say last week's 'big lift' in wholesale interest rates added to the upside pressure on mortgage rates
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Whatever the Reserve Bank (RBNZ) decides to do with official interest rates this week, fixed mortgage rates will likely continue rising, ASB economists say.

Market opinion is divided over whether the RBNZ will increase the Official Cash Rate by 25 basis points (to 1.25%) or by 50 (to 1.50%) at its Wednesday review.

ASB economists are picking a 25 basis-point raise. But in ASB's latest Economic Weekly, senior economist Mike Jones says "the most important point for many" is that fixed mortgage rates will likely rise regardless of the RBNZ decision.

"Last week’s big lift in wholesale rates adds to the upside pressure. The RBNZ decision is probably more about the timing," he says.

In Kiwibank's latest First View publication, chief economist Jarrod Kerr, senior economist Jeremy Couchman and economist Mary Jo Vergara say they expect a 25 basis point rise to the OCR from the RBNZ.   

"If the RBNZ delivers a 25bp hike come Wednesday, we'd expect to see a sharp reaction in financial markets," they say.

"Interest rate markets have front loaded expectations for 50bp moves and have a terminal rate of 4% in this cycle. Market pricing is well above the RBNZ's OCR track which implies a terminal rate around 3.35%. A 25bp hike would underwhelm markets, and see 50bp moves being priced out of the market."

They say with a 25bp rise they would expect to see a 10-to-20bp fall in wholesale (but not retail) interest rates.

"Conversely, a 50bp hike would further fuel the relentless push higher in interest rates. A decision to hike 50bp in April is likely to be seen as a decision to hike 50bp in May as well, and again in July and August. We simply don't see the need to prescribe such an aggressive policy, given the weakness in confidence. Therefore, into the announcement we'd position for a slight fall in interest rates and a reactionary fall in the Kiwi currency (to be short lived)."

ASB's Jones notes that the world's central banks, tasked with controlling inflation, "continue to sound ever-more stressed about the job at hand".

"Turns out inflation wasn’t transitory after all."

He says the speed of the central bank "flip-around" on inflation "is frightening the life out of wholesale interest rate markets."

"Last week was case in point. US long-term bond yields lurched another 32bps higher over the week, helping drag rates in this part of the world up by a similar amount. And let’s not forget these gains are coming on top of what was already a record March.

"According to our numbers, the March increase in the 2-year US bond yield was the largest in over 30 years while the increase in the NZ 2-year swap yield was the 10th largest in recorded history. 

"So, while interest rates remain low in an overall sense, the speed of the increase has been the fastest in decades."

Jones says it is therefore no wonder that people are starting to fret about the possibility of monetary policy-induced recessions.

"The fact the US yield curve slope has been flirting with inversion (10-year rates below 2-year) – a long-followed US recession indicator – has been getting plenty of attention. "

He says the risks of a US recession have probably increased. 

"We think sharp increases in interest rates coupled with an energy supply shock will certainly slow global GDP growth this year. Our friends at CBA [ASB's parent Commonwealth Bank] have recently trimmed their 2022 global GDP forecast to 4.1%, from 4.5%.

"But excessively tight labour markets and oodles of fiscal cash should hopefully see most of the world avoid the stagflation nasties.

"Of our major trading partners, we think the Eurozone is the most at risk. This thanks to the continent’s energy dependence on Russia. CBA recently slashed its Eurozone GDP forecast for 2022 from 4.2% to 3.3%. "  

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Its only going in one Direction. UP

7% interest rates this year Guaranteed .

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Ctrl "c", Ctrl "v"

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Still chasing me ?  Oh well, here is another - The Pendulum always swings. But keep your pants on this time, no one wants to see that Pendulum Swinging.

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Chasing you? How is it chasing you when you post the same thing on every article? 

 

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Different words. Is the 7% interest rates coming soon making you feel nervous ?

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Slightly different words, still no insight. 

As I've repeatedly said, the increases don't worry me at all.

The only thing I'm worried that this site will be drowned out by repetition. 

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10% rates this time next year -   very possible :) 

does that help any ? 

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It's better than 2022 but any insight into why you believe that and what would be prudent given that information? 

Also, posting it a couple of times to start a conversation with a few different people is all good. 

Posting the same thing daily with no new insights is just spam. 

"7%" is the new "be quick"

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fair cop --  was mocking 22 as i really think that they should update their forecast -- 7% is a given -   how much higher is the question

I suppose i remember paying over 10% before the GFC -- and i see an even more ridiculously inflated housing ponzi than the one that caused that crash --  even more inflated stock prices - P/E ratios are through the roof - a Bitcoin bubble similar to tech stocks but with less real value behind it    - and  worst of all  this time with massive inflation pressure that will stop the previous and only solution of mass printing presses and QE - 

i took the 2.99 for five years last march with ASB --  based on listening to the more astute and way smarter people on here who convinced me --  that rates could not go any lower and if they did it was marginal at best -- and that the inflation pressures - supply chains et al were very real  

 

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Yes 7% interest rates this year is a given.  I cant really talk about higher rates than that kpnuts, too many people get frightened, it seems to really scare them. Strange though, it was not long ago people were paying 11% rates on their mortgages . 

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2022 what do you call not that long ago ? I have never paid 11% rates and I'm 55. I can remember 6.8% way back and the worst for me was 8.6% but my guess is you have never had a mortgage in your life.

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Pretty sure I was paying about 11% at one stage in the late 90s, but my memory may be failing me.

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about 2010. Just before the GFC. I was paying 10.5 floating , others were paying 11% according to Kpnuts.

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The GFC was 2008…

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In NZ or USA ?

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Hint, what does the "G" stand for?

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Nice try, but it was not the same time for each country. The property market was fine here in NZ in 2008.

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The OCR started dropping in July 2008 and the drops accelerated through to the end of 2008 and Q1 of 2009.  By 2010 the OCR was actually being raised again but subsequently dropped after the Christchurch earthquakes.

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If you were paying 11% for a mortgage in 2010 then it must have been because you fixed it long term prior to the GFC in 2008.

https://www.rbnz.govt.nz/statistics/key-graphs/key-graph-mortgage-rates

 

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I was floating only. it was 10.5% .

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?

floating was around 6% in 2010.

sorry mate, you have zero credibility.

the above has merely confirmed what was becoming pretty obvious in your non credible comments.

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The exact date is not important , do you dispute people were paying 10% -11% around that time ? forget the exact time, the topic was the amount. Sounds like those 7% interest rates coming very shortly is getting you worried HouseMouse.

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Wow! Guess what mortgage rates actually were in 2010... You guessed it, it's your favorite number!!! 

 

https://www.rbnz.govt.nz/statistics/key-graphs/key-graph-mortgage-rates

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7%. Coming to a bank near you.

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Why would you pay 7% when you can do what you did and pay 11%

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Never paid 11%.  But HouseMouse will be paying 7% very soon. Best you get your House in order Mouse.

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by 2022 | 12th Apr 22, 9:07am

about 2010. Just before the GFC. I was paying 10.5 floating , others were paying 11% according to Kpnuts.

 

My apologies, you were paying 10.5% when everyone else was paying 6%.

"7% = Be Quick"

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Good luck. You will need it. Your statements and analysis are all over the show.

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?

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What part is not working for you HouseMouse ?

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Is your username 2022 so you remember what year it is? 

"Demand and house prices started to fall in early 2008, as the global crisis spread to New Zealand. During 2008, house prices fell 4.8% (-7.9% in real terms)."

https://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Pacific/New-Zealand/Price-History-A…).

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What happened to HouseMouse ? Did the cat get his tongue ? Strange how you just appear Kjeldorian in this neck of the woods.

Lets get back to the original question - Do you dispute 10-11% rates were around this time ?

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I don't doubt that you were paying 11% when everyone else was paying your favorite number. 

https://www.rbnz.govt.nz/statistics/key-graphs/key-graph-mortgage-rates

 

FYI, upvoting your own comments is pretty pathetic. 

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I have noticed your ongoing self adulation HouseMouse over your excessive commenting since I have been on this site. Clearly you are butt hurt because you are not the centre of attention in this comment section. You have now been caught out using another fake account to give yourself more votes, I am embarrassed for you. You are the one who has now lost all credibility !!!   You failed to make a guest appearance yesterday under HouseMouse, Oh what a mistake. You have left a thousand signatures, you idiot. 

Now that it is you HouseMouse that has been chasing me out of Fear and Jealousy I would like an apology for your actions.

Or has the Cat got your Tongue ??????

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I'm not Tim Morduant, or Barbara Streisand or HouseMouse. 

This game of Guess Who is getting tedious. 

"7%" = "Be Quick"

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Nice try HouseMouse - You have lost all credibility, what ever there was to start with.

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If you had been here for more than a month you would know of the many heated debates HouseMouse and I have had. 

If interest rates are 5% now what are you paying 9.5%? 

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This guy 2022 is a friggin clown. Going to add him to Printer 8 and TPP in the ‘ignore’ category.

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See you tomorrow HouseMouse. Keep chasing. Always 3 steps behind.

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Finally something we agree on =P

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With the average house price around 420k. Whole new ball game now

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The forecast is fine, the posting it on every page is just spam. 

I'm with the mouse, I think we will continue to see rises this year and then when the recession hits we will drop down again (albeit not to these levels).

2.99 was a great deal, well done! 

Mine is split into 4, a big chunk is offset then part rolling over in march next year then the year after and the year after that. 

It's a great time to be hammering down the mortgage. At our current rate it'll be gone in 5 years.

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Kpnuts what made you buy last year? The rate was great but the house you purchased will lose 40% too 50% over next few years.last year’s prices will be remembered as year of FOMO and crazy over valued housing. Could take over 10 years for prices to get back to 2021 levels

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It becomes like one of those string-pull toys with about 5 phrases. Amusing till about the 2nd listen, then all downhill from there.

 

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I think 2022 is participating in a little light trolling ;-). In his defense, many commentators on this site have also engaged in that, so we shouldn’t complain too much at 2022. 

2022 if I recall did you clarify that you are suggesting that mortgage rates would be at 7% by the end of the year (rather than the OCR)? If so, I think you could be loosely correct. I can easily envisage the 2 and 3 year fixed, being around 7% if the OCR is at 2.5-3% by the end of the year. 

There will still be those who get cheaper offers (pristine collateral, secure job and good credit history), but I imagine highly leveraged investors and FHB might get offered 7%. Depends on the pricing of risk, not just the RBNZ. We need to remember that a lot of people took mortgage holidays, so that may also give lenders pause. 

 

 

 

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I actually think 2022 is about 4-5 other posters that seem to pop up, make the same post along the same subject in multiple discussions for a few weeks, then strangely never post again. Remember when we had someone counting off the number of houses for sale every day on trademe?

But yes, number go up, number go down. Better questions might be, "will the RBNZ make substantive changes, or will we just keep seeing QE being used to juice economies"? Because it seems pretty clear, the economy will go bust, stagnate, then money printing happens again, house prices go up, people get sadder. 

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Hi gingerninja -  Sorry for the late reply, went for a cheeky little surf.  Yes, when I talk about 7% interest rates this year ( Guaranteed ) I am referring to mortgage rates, not the OCR. And yes I like the way you mention what not many others are saying and that is "Depends on the pricing of risk, not just the RBNZ."  7% rates is very easy to believe, unless people have vested interests.  Its about emotional Intelligence ( EI ) .

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Its going to be all UP from here.

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Honestly. At what point do these comments even contribute to discussion. 

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They don't, they are just noise. Same as we used to get with "be quick" now it's "7% Guarantee"

Both sides of the meaningless drivel coin. 

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To be fair, he is correct, 7% is a certainty. It would be financially astute to listen to him.

Listening to the "be quick" clown would have been catastrophic.

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Being correct doesn't make it any less annoying.

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Nothing in life is certain. 

It's the same meaningless nonsense that adds nothing to the conversation. 

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Its certain the pendulum swings. You were begging me for that Kjeldoran. Come on now.

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It was an unexplained guess the first time he commented and every subsequent one has just been taking up space where otherwise considered comments could contribute to debate. 

I don’t need the particular advice he’s giving (fixed our debt for 3/4 yr split last July at about 3%). 

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Wouldn’t be surprised if it was a BL alias given they have been only a member for a month. Wish editors would remove this spam.

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I don't need aliases. More of me would be too much awesome to handle 😎

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I said 7% interest rates this year Guaranteed . Not "Guarantee" 

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I am only trying to help you Kjeldorian .  And you should be thanking me . I know its there inside of you deep down. Let it out brother.

I have something for you to watch that I believe you will find very interesting and informative that is not about 7% interest rates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx-IvnGQO_Q

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There is nothing you have posted that could be considered help. Shouting 7% isn't helping anyone. 

Not sure why I would thank you for posting the same thing every day on here? 

 

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Tim Mordaunt. Have you ever thought about the Streisand Effect. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

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Tim Mordaunt? Barbara Streisand? Have you gotten sick of shouting "7" and you've decided to play Guess Who? 

You haven't provided any information to suppress. You've spammed 7 all over this website and pretend like that's helping people. It's not, its just annoying. 

7% = Be Quick

 

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If you just said nothing about 7% interest rates then there would be no problem. Just let it go. Ignore it.

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@2022 Tell me what term your 7% rate applies too , otherwise your just stiring. 7% 1 yr rates is much different than 5yr 7% rates

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I can still never understand how so many kiwis want a crash and want people to fail. 

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I'd like to see basic needs to be affordable for everybody.

Affordable means that you can get them just by working more or less hard, in a fair amount of time, with a fair amount of sacrifices.

Today that is not true.

If some people must fail to achieve that I will consider it a collateral damage.

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"If some people must fail to achieve that I will consider it a collateral damage."

The problem is you're going to take down an awful lot of recent home buyers who had nothing to do with spiking prices and just happened to be born at the wrong time. As usual, letting one generation cop it seems to be how NZ solves its problems - never minding the boomers and Gen-Xers who caused this whole mess will just cash out and carry on in their own little world in which they should have everything and everyone else should pay for it. 

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I am sorry for them, but I don't see any other practical options.

Do you?

somebody needs to lose for the society to advance

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We could all succeed together? Again the Kiwi Tall Poppy attitude showing itself here, cut down those that are doing well?

I think bringing back unions and creating a high wage economy would go a long way in solving the problems. You look at Aussie, everyone earns a decent wage and can have a decent lifestyle. I also think Kiwis need to reside to the face the 1/4 acre dream is gone, and we need to become a modern society that promotes high-density living. 
 

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Many peps don't consider me a Kiwi.

Tall Poppy attitude against those that are doing well... you cannot be more wrong.

Define "doing well", please. 

The victims will be not the ones "doing well", but the ones that felt in the narrative of "house price goes only up". The victims of every Ponzi are the last ones entering.

About Aussie... " everyone earns a decent wage and can have a decent lifestyle " <= I don't see that, any stats you are referring to? I only know that 1h work costs more in Australia and houses cost comparatively a little less in average. This doesn't put them in a much better position than NZ. Look at how prudently (cowardly) they are looking in OCR increases.

"I also think Kiwis need to reside to the face the 1/4 acre dream is gone" <= c'mon don't be naive. Most kiwis just dream a roof without inspections, with nad no no-pets conditions. The 1/4 acre is gone, you live in the past.

We need to become a modern society that promotes high-density living. <= yes, correct, and the consequence will be that offer will be more than demand.

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Tall poppy syndrome is alive and well in NZ

"Doing well" depends on too large a volume of inputs. Age, income, savings, home ownership, career, family. 

The victims will be the ones who are forced to sell. If you bought at the peak but don't have to sell and have the income to service the mortgage then you'll be fine in the long run. 

I agree with Aussie points

1/4 acre dream is alive and well, just look in the comments section. There is always mention of "shoeboxes" or "shitboxes"

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Yeh, no. I was referring to myself and what I said. I was not "tail-popping".

As said, I don't think the ones "doing well" will be hit too much, depending on how you define "doing well"

Buying an house at the top of the market does not mean "doing well"

About the ones forced to sell. Yes, those are the big losers, mostly. But there will be other side effects. I am just saying that you can't get out without damage.

About the nature of the house dream, you might be probably right. Just... is not my experience.

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I disagree. If you buy a home that you are going to stay in for the long term, you can cover the repayments if prices go up considerably then there is no bad time to buy. 

I bought at the "top of the market" in 2015. 

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If not now, when?

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False dichotomy.

Continuing to bail out and enrich older speculators is not the only way to help recent FHB and current renters.

For example, the Aussie New Libs' plan is specifically targeted to enable the lowering of house prices while helping renters and FHB most badly affected by governments' and Reserve Banks' absurd pumping of the property market and resultant wealth transfers, without simply continuing to bail out and enrich speculators as has been the approach to date.

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At this point, not wanting a crash is also wanting people to fail. It's a case of pick your poison. But in any case, I don't think most people want anyone to 'fail.' There's a difference between wanting an outcome that you think is necessary for the good of society and the economy while realizing that that will be bad for some people, and actively wanting those people to fail. I don't actively want business owners to fail, but I also think that it's necessary that some businesses be allowed to fail because if they are not (due to government intervention, for example) then that's bad for society and the economy. 

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Do you want food to be more expensive? No, that would be crazy.

Why would you want housing to be expensive?

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This is tall poppy syndrome against innocent supermarket duopolies, apparently.

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Because for years we’ve been treated like second-class citizens for sitting on the side, waiting for this speculative bogan roulette to collapse. I don’t want anyone to fail, but the desire for a sane property market far outweighs any sympathy for those who unsustainably levered up to cash out do-nothing boomer property beneficiaries.

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I agree. You can forgive first home buyers who felt they had no choice but to participate in the madness, or you can say, it was everyone who paid too much who are to blame for this mess. And that includes recent buyers.

Sick of treating full grown adults like poor victims who have no control over their own finances. Nobody was blind to this ‘housing crisis’, we’ve been calling it that for years and it’s been described as madness for years. So if you decide to participate in it, then it crashes, you have nobody to blame but yourself!

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I can never understand, why house prices have been allowed to get so out of touch with reality that a crash is now necessary, and I certainly don’t won’t to see people lose their homes - utterly heartbreaking. 

Saw this house for sale on trade me with price reduced!!! Surely it’s utter madness to pay that sort of money for a square box with some nice fittings and superficial room dressing on a postage stamp section. There’s gotta be a better a better way to live than what’s being dished up right now surely.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/property/residential/sale/listing/3543966606

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Good grief. Be a great add for 'reasons for a young person to leave NZ'.

Never mind, if it doesn't sell it will be snapped up by Govt to house a beneficiary and to keep the market from correcting.

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Indeed. The kiwi best and brightest aren't sticking around. ✈️✅

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House prices have gotten to this absurd point because our policy approach to housing, zoning, tax and money has encapsulated entitlement mentality. It has performed as a wealth transfer scheme to those who got access to property affordably. It's living off the wealth of preceding and succeeding generations.

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If you want an insight into the entitlement mentality of the generation that benefited from that wealth transfer scheme, take a look at the last five columns here: https://maryholm.com/categories/nz-herald-qa-column/

Full of people getting NZ's most generous non-means tested benefit complaining that they have to fill in forms about their work history in order to get it. 

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Most people simply want a fair go. They see the chosen few getting more and more of the pie and it causes a lot of consternation on struggle street. "What about me, it isn't fair ... " as that one hit wonder song goes.

Meanwhile the chosen few promulgate the myth of "the Tall Poppy Syndrome" - insinuating that the rest are jealous losers who are not as smart and deserving as themselves. 50% of the worlds 80 richest people inherited their wealth.

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If they really believed it was tall poppy syndrome and people just need to stand on their own two feet they wouldn't grab young Kiwis' wages as their socialist universal welfare benefit.

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You too will think differently about that if you pay into the system all your life then the rules are changed when you're only a few years away from qualifying.

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I'm not opposed to the universal welfare benefit, I am opposed to the fallacious leveling of "tall poppy syndrome" at people who decry the policy-driven wealth transfers from work and savings to asset owners.

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Why do I feel that RBNZ prefer a no increase in OCR. 

With rampant inflation, and most importantly, the Fed's 50 bp interest rate increases, my bet is on a 50 bp increase. 75 bp is a long shot.

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Why do they prefer no increase. That's because every single person at the RBNZ has a mortgage.  Just they same as Nationals interest deductibility and  tax cuts gives every one of their MP's a pay increase.

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I think you are right.

They, as everybody else, think for themselves and their families first.

There are caveats, anyways, as long as 1 person = 1 vote.

By making unhappy (or desperate) enough people they risk "populists" to became influent.

As long as the ball is passed between Nat and Lab, all good. But... what if not?

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The continuing rise of the fixed rates is really going to start hurting those who have recently taken out large mortgages and their current fixed rate deal is coming up for re fix soon. It looks like the bank's will be increasing their rates regardless of OCR movements. 

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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/ocr-preview-reserve-banks-big-call-…

https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/115288/nziers-shadow-board-sha…

WHY is media discussing, do they not know what an average person knows that Mr Orr will not raise by 0.5%.

WHY the discussion, may be need something to talk - time pass otherwise what sort of journalist and experts are they when are not able to read writting on the wall that Mr Orr will raise it by 0.25% and even that as is forced by economy.

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I will never pay the Nanny Herald MSM to read articles. Thanks for sharing though, and i'm curious as to what they said.

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Good for the rich pricks on here, their nest egg goes up, while homeowners have to s**t out money they dont have, and those on benefits struggle to find jobs, and wages fall right thru the floor for everyone else.

 

Hope the term deposit rate increase, cheap lattes and nest egg interest is worth it. Because the barista who serves your frappachino has to find an extra $200 for their rent/mortage and will probably end up in his/her/their car.

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Oh well the property investor types say that we will just inflate away our exceptional high debt levels for those with big mortgages/rental portfolios. 
 

Will be a walk in the park (sarc). 
 

Everyone’s wages will just increase at the inflation rates so nobody losses…win win…

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Was that more sarc its hard to tell because your wages never keep up with inflation and that's the problem. 

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Apologies....yet that was 50% sarc...

But then again wages never keep up with inflation then the quality of our lives must be deteriorating rapidly because our purchasing power would be being destroyed on a daily/weekly basis. This is certainly true at present. But has it been true for your lifetime Carlos? Do you experience a better quality of life now than what your parents did, or what your grandchildren experience relative to what you experienced as a child?

If your wages never stayed up with inflation, then your lifestyle would have to be substantially worse than your parents during their retirement. If not, then something strange must have happened..

But what could it be?

 

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Exactly. The reality is NZ has declining real wages. This just isn't shown on paper because the Pseudostatistics out of Stat's NZ paint a rosier picture of the CPI than what it actually is in reality.

I personally wouln't expect anything else from a country who's economy is based in some sort of illusionary wealth effect generated by ever rising house prices. With no respect whatsoever to the concept of the neutrality of money. 

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7% really worries me as a FHB who bought responsibly two years ago ($430k mortgage). The jump from 2.9% to 7% is going to remove my ability to save any money at all. Full on hard breaks for spending, I won’t be doing any shopping and hoarding any money I get. I imagine other ls will be the same. 

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I empathize, IKiwi. At this point it feels like my whole life will be spent scrimping, despite earning what should in theory be very good money (first as a student, then while saving for a house, now while paying off a house and trying to save for retirement). It's not that I want anything fancy - I'm not after a boat or an overseas holiday or something really extravagant like a kid. But I would like to be able to afford a car so I could visit friends and family more easily (I had to move away to be able to afford a house). 

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Yeah. Feeling recession already to be honest. I don’t want to spend because not secure anymore

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If houses weren't so crazy expensive, and people only had to take on 3-4x income in housing debt....(which is the historical affordable standard)....then most of these issues would be more or less non-existent. Yet we have foolishly decided that pumping house prices is the best way forward. A principle of life is that as individuals and as societies, you reap what you sow. We, through self-centered and short term thinking, have planted the seeds for financial misery in the future - just so that one part of society (mostly boomers...no offence boomers) can retire during the everything bubble with maximum wealth. And it appears to be to hell to everyone else around them. Elder Gen X'ers have done quite well having been along for the ride with the boomers. Non-asset owning millennials/or millennials with large mortgages are left to carry the burden of the selfishness of the generations before them.

But I certainly feel for your circumstances....its not particularly fair....you might be burdened with the pain of higher interest rates in the future and the debt burden, while other people have had the wealth transferred to them for doing more or less nothing (those who are debt free or close to it).

Its a crazy situation, and generations with greater wisdom (think greatest generation) did the opposite to the generations that followed them. Yet their children, some how, missed the lessons of wisdom, humility and society over self.

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Agree with you there. Not only that, but the renters are about to see some big hikes if the landlords decide to pass on these costs.

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Just like how they dropped the rents when the reserve bank emergency dropped interest rates to near zero....oh thats right.....their costs dropped substantially but the rent still went up!

Its a rort....

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Not quite as fluid as that champ.

Locked in to rates for 5 years but interest rates drop after one so they have to discount rent for 4 years even though they are paying the same?

(not defending landlords, just pointing out the fallacy of your argument)

 

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