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Reserve Bank set to increase the Official Cash Rate on Wednesday in the last scheduled review of its key monetary policy tool for three months

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Reserve Bank set to increase the Official Cash Rate on Wednesday in the last scheduled review of its key monetary policy tool for three months
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Barring something truly dramatic happening between now and Wednesday, it's a foregone conclusion that the Reserve Bank (RBNZ) will increase the Official Cash Rate (OCR). But how much will it hike by, and is there actually a case that it shouldn't hike at all?

With rising inflation and a strong labour market, the RBNZ is widely expected to increase the OCR at its review on Wednesday, November 24. This follows the 25 basis points October 6 hike to 0.50%, the first time the OCR has been increased in seven years.

A key factor to consider ahead of Wednesday's Monetary Policy Statement and OCR review is it's the last time the RBNZ is scheduled to review the OCR for three months. The next MPS and OCR review is scheduled for February 23. The RBNZ does have scope for an unscheduled OCR review before then, but this is an unusual step used just twice previously. Firstly after the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York, and in March 2020 in the early days of the Covid-19 pandemic.

In terms of what the RBNZ's expected to announce on Wednesday, here's what ANZ NZ's economists had to say on Friday morning, which is similar to what most bank economists are saying.

"The RBNZ meets next week for the final interest rate decision of the year. We are expecting that they will deliver a second interest rate hike of 25 basis points, bringing the OCR to 0.75%. This will be their first MPS since the [Covid-19] Delta outbreak started, but their comments in the October review suggested they didn’t envisage any long-term impacts on the economic outlook. And given that unemployment came out at a joint-record low for the third quarter, the economy probably has an even better starting point than they thought back then," ANZ says.

"Given the large upside surprises to inflation and employment since the October review, it’s no surprise that the main question for [financial] markets has been how much the RBNZ will hike, rather than will they/won’t they. Market pricing implies 60/40 odds of a 25 basis points hike versus 50 basis points. One can certainly make a case for a 50 basis points hike, but for us, the argument for 25 basis points is stronger. The inflation risks are still to the upside, but growth and employment risks are much less one-sided. Monetary conditions have already tightened quite a bit, with mortgage rates rising at the fastest rate in 15 years. A 25 basis points hike will help to lock in that tightening, without putting undue stress on the economy."

"The fourth quarter RBNZ Survey of Expectations (released Thursday) also provides the Monetary Policy Committee with some leeway. True, one and two-year-ahead [inflation] measures have spiked sharply – but that was to be expected given that inflation is running at 4.9% and we expect it to reach just under 6% in the first quarter. Longer-term measures are still at or close to the 2% target midpoint, suggesting people still believe that over the medium term, the RBNZ will be successful at containing inflation. The big question is how high the OCR will need to go to achieve that outcome. We’re forecasting a 2% OCR by end-2022, but there’s a lot of water to flow under the bridge before then," ANZ's economists say.

'The least regrets approach is to retain policy stimulus'

Others do, however, hold divergent views.

Sense Partners economist Shamubeel Eaqub says a small increase in interest rates is probably not that big a deal. Eaqub notes retail borrowing costs have already risen off the back of rising wholesale borrowing costs, which matters most for recent highly geared borrowers. 

"I am not convinced the recent inflation surge is domestic, related to unsustainable wage cost increases and some immediate risk of a wage-price spiral," Eaqub says. 

"The RBNZ was utterly wrong to expect a return to [Covid-19 Alert] Level 1. It shows they have limited understanding of Delta and how NZ's Covid response is likely to change. Rising infections, deaths and yo-yo restrictions like we are seeing in Europe is a risk to the economy. The economic disruptions the rest of the world experienced last year is what's coming for us in 2022." 

"The least regrets approach is to retain policy stimulus, rather than hiking now to cave to their obsession with too high inflation, but never with too low inflation, like the whole of the last decade. But I expect them to hike, because they said they would. They will most likely cut again in 2022 when Delta disruptions give them an opening to cut and still save face, like the Canterbury Earthquakes did  after their premature hikes after the Global Financial Crisis a decade ago," Eaqub says.

'Inflation is largely an overseas phenomenon'

Craig Renney, Council of Trade Unions Economist and Director of Policy, says he'd like the Reserve Bank's Monetary Policy Committee to be very cautious and considerate in its use of the OCR lever right now.

"Inflation is largely an overseas phenomenon - oil, energy, commodities - and is not being driven by domestic factors. It is also being driven by supply-chain bottlenecks and accelerated to some extent by the level of global stimulus cash that has been provided by governments," says Renney.

"Given that Europe is seemingly headed into a new wave of COVID-19, and that global growth remains uncertain, we should be adopting a path of least regrets for the OCR. This is especially the case for New Zealand given our own uncertain COVID future. I would therefore recommend at most a 25 basis points rise, and would consider not increasing it all. I am unsure how useful a tool it is tackling the form of inflation that we have right now."

However, Renney says he expects the Monetary Policy Committee will be weighing up exactly how high to lift the OCR after recent economic indicators.

"With inflation at 4.9% they will feel as if they must respond, and with unemployment at 3.4% they will consider the other leg of their mandate met. I think that they will also put a significant amount of consideration on the latest household inflation expectations, with inflation expected to be 4% one year from now. They will consider it necessary to reiterate their commitment to their inflation target, and to send a strong signal that the Bank will do what is necessary to achieve this goal. Consequently, they will lift the OCR by 50 basis points to 1%."

"Having done this, they may point to the Auckland lockdowns and the fact that wages are not yet responding to inflationary pressures as a reason to then take a pause from future OCR rises in the short-term unless evidence further compels them. This is particularly the case as the major banks have already priced in OCR changes into their mortgage rates," Renney says.

'Inflation pressures are rampant'

ASB's economists suggest the RBNZ is playing catch-up with inflation pressures "rampant."  They say a 50 basis points OCR hike is certainly possible, but are predicting a 25 basis points increase.

"The Bank needs the market to keep doing its work for it. So we expect a hawkish statement and OCR projections to be lifted to show a terminal OCR on the tighter side of ‘neutral’," ASB says.

"Third quarter Consumers Price Index inflation, at 4.9% year-on-year, printed well north of the RBNZ’s 4.1% forecast. More importantly, we expect inflation to hold up at uncomfortably-high levels for much longer than the RBNZ’s prior forecasts implied. We forecast headline inflation to hit 5.9% by the end of the year, and stay above the RBNZ’s 1% to 3% target range until at least early 2023."

"The RBNZ will be wary of the risk that elevated headline inflation becomes embedded in the public’s inflation expectations. We’re already seeing signs of this in business surveys, and the RBNZ survey of two-year ahead inflation expectations showed a huge lift, to 2.97% from 2.27% last quarter. That’s the highest in thirteen years," ASB's economists say.

They suggest unemployment will remain below 4% for the foreseeable future after the recent record-equalling low unemployment rate of 3.4%, meaning "we are well through" the RBNZ’s moving feast "maximum sustainable employment" target.

"House price inflation, which is now in the RBNZ’s Remit but not as a formal target, refuses to die down, holding up at 30% year-on-year for six straight months now," ASB says.

"The case to return the cash rate to ‘neutral,' thought to be around 2%, over time seems clear. It’s really about tactics in how to get there, bearing in mind there are still plenty of uncertainties that could upset the applecart next year."

'A 50 basis points hike risks further unsettling business and consumer confidence'

ASB's economists also consider whether the RBNZ should "up the run-rate" with a 50 basis points increase on November 24.

"Most obviously, the market is already doing the RBNZ’s tightening work for it. Since the October meeting, wholesale interest rates have surged another 50 to100 basis points. In turn, mortgage rates have also roared higher. The fourth quarter lift in mortgage rates, of around 100 basis points so far, will be one of the largest quarterly increases since the OCR was introduced in 1999."

"Yes, mortgage rates are still at low levels historically. But that sort of rate of change – if sustained – will exert a powerful slowing effect on the housing market and retail spending next year. The RBNZ will be wary of heaping more pressure on given the explosion in household debt over the past 18 months. In addition, the Bank is acutely aware of the struggle in some parts of the economy thanks to COVID restrictions. A 50 basis points hike risks further unsettling business and consumer confidence," ASB says.

Until its scheduled February OCR review ASB's economists suggest the RBNZ will want interest rate markets to keep doing the mahi/work for it.

"For this reason, we expect a hawkish statement and an explicit signalling that rate hikes will continue, at pace. The tightening bias will be retained and strengthened," says ASB.

"Key in this regard will be the Bank’s OCR forecasts. Recall the August MPS projections had 125 basis points to 150 basis points of hikes in the OCR track over the next two years, with an end point of around 2.1% in 2024. We suspect the updated track will be see these hikes front-loaded, with the end point lifted to show an OCR peak on the tighter side of ‘neutral’. Perhaps something around 2.5%."

Westpac sees OCR rising to 3% in this cycle

Westpac NZ Acting Chief Economist Michael Gordon suggests the RBNZ will need to lift the OCR to a peak of 3% over the next couple of years. 

"In short, we see excess demand as the greater challenge for New Zealand’s inflation outlook, one that’s likely to live on beyond the recent cost shocks that are emanating from overseas. The data over recent weeks has only reinforced that view. We’ve learnt that the economy was running wildly ahead of what the RBNZ expected before the lockdown, with a 2.8% jump in Gross Domestic Product in the June quarter. Demand for workers has continued to run hot, with employment up more than 4% on a year ago and the unemployment rate dropping to 3.4% in the September quarter," says Gordon.

"While the latest Covid restrictions have substantially dampened activity, indicators such as card spending, building consents and job advertisements suggest that activity is well-placed to rebound as restrictions are eased. There’s also been a sharp lift in inflation, which rose to 4.9% in the year to September. That was much higher than the RBNZ had expected in August, and it’s likely to go even higher in the near-term."

Meanwhile, Gordon expects a chunky increase in the RBNZ’s projected OCR path ahead compared to its August review.

"The previous track implied a steady series of OCR hikes, reaching a little above 2% by the end of the three-year forecast horizon. That’s slightly higher than where the RBNZ estimates the ‘neutral’ level of the OCR to be. The reason given was that the OCR will need to be a little higher to offset the easing effect of measures such as large-scale bond purchases and the Funding for Lending Programme, which won’t have been fully unwound three years from now. We estimate that developments in the economy since then are worth at least an additional 50 basis points on the RBNZ’s profile."

"That would see the projected OCR reach a peak in the high 2’s, in line with what’s baked into current market interest rates and close to our forecast of a 3% peak. It’s possible that the RBNZ could extend its projection beyond three years this time, to show a falling OCR in later years, as we’ve done with our own forecast. This would convey the idea that the higher OCR track is a temporary peak in the cycle, not a reassessment of where the long-run neutral level lies. It would also capture the idea that the OCR won’t need to provide as much offset in later years, as the other policy measures run their natural course," says Gordon.

"With so much work ahead for monetary policy over the next couple of years, the question of tactics will naturally arise. We think that a 25 basis point hike is the more likely outcome at next Wednesday’s policy review. But we also stress – and have done previously – that there is a meaningful risk that the Monetary Policy Committee decides to hike by 50 basis points in one go."

Gordon says that whichever way the RBNZ goes, "there’s going to be a sizeable move in short-term interest rates on the day."

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Either way they will be "wrong". Announce a decision then turn the phone and social media off

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We know that their forecasting models have not been accurate, so this is the question: what does he use?

Crystal balls come in all sorts of price ranges/ qualities. From poor plastic ones from China to fine crystal glass ones with "special additives". I believe that with a Mark 1V type GRPo2 model has had some success in predicting macro economics. But that has varied based upon how dark the room/ tent is. And of course these sophisticated ones are particularly difficult in terms of operating them correctly. There can be operator error with any of them. If Mr Orr does not have the right qualifications any tiny flaws in the crystal ball could cause some dark outcomes such as the occult, woke biases, uneconomic leftist outcomes, rewarding the unmotivated etc.

 

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Mr Orr is forced to think of increasing  OCR as everything pointing towards it  and is under scrutiny WILL raise it by 0.25% knowing his wait and watch approach when it comes to supporting the so called economy #Housing.

What happened to DTI, still thinking since six months, what to do than year to consult than another six months.....hoping that miracle happens and people forget.

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There is too a question of image. After all, being  seen to be doing something indicates knowing something about something. 0.25% will do that job more or less but hardly much else if inflation,  now being recorded,  is not actually transitory.

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Let experts discuss but knowing Mr Orr as has to, will do 0.25%.

 

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Transitory Inflation - so lets ignore

Imported Inflation, we cannot do anything about - so lets ignore

Imported deflation due to Tech and Disintermediation over recent years - Lets be Uber Dovish to generate inflation.

Is it about inflation management or Housing Ponzi Scheme management?

 

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Yup. They are extremely biased in their selectivity.

The sooner that society moves to crypto the sooner these crooked bastards are out of a job.

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Yeah, there is no coming back from the full retard hole they have dug.

We are turning our backs on their manipulations, which are now largely ineffectual given the debt mountains they have encouraged, and the overseas trends they can do nothing about.

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Too much focus on the OCR by economists and commentators. What matters for us is retail rates, and these are influenced by far more than just the OCR.

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So if retail rates are lifting a lot without the OCR being raised, maybe the RBNZ doesn't need to do the heavy lifting?

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Oil prices have already dropped 6% from their highs and the shipping container crisis is slowly abating. I also think with the dollar slightly underpriced atm the global inflation factors arent as strong forecasted as they once were as such we can just look at our domestic factors. Interest rates have risen 1.5% already minimum and there is still a global risk of a slowdown anything can happen. RBNZ Will be mad to increase 0.5% - if circumstances warrant then do that in February, give some of these businesses some relief over the next few months

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Although headline oil prices have dropped, New Zealand sources most of its oil from Dubai, which is trading almost at one year highs . Similarly the government tax  take has never been higher, which unfortunately means either a large shift in oil demand to lower prices / or a significant rise in NZDUSD to offset. Both possible  But at present , MBIE weekly fuel prices for discounted fuel is currently at record highs, further adding to  Q4 CPI .

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In real terms fuel tax has gone down this year 

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Crude price and supply chain disruption is just a trigger of inflation. Once it's in wages and inflation expectations, it will need more to bring down inflation. 

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The article is silent about RBA last week announcing no rate increases now or in 2022, so we likely see the interest rate differential feed into currency appreciation. 

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They didn't announce no rate increases, they said they don't currently anticipate the need for it. Important difference.

Central banks' predictions about the future are about as accurate as reading tea leaves.

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Correction acknowledged 

still quite a different stance between two reserve banks  

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NZD/AUD parity on its way.  

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New Swisstzerland

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?

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Is there any evidence that very low interest rates are good for (productive) business yet? (By which I mean <4%)

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No, monetary policy is neutral in the long term & has mo impact on the real economy.

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As painful as it maybe for some, we need the OCR set at a ‘low normal’  4, 5%.We have all witnessed huge distortions occurring at a prolong abnormally low OCR. For the health and fundamentals of our economy, the quicker we get to normalising rates the better.

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Pipe dream

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Pretty much. Our monetary system now is basically a perpetual wealth transfer from savers to depositors..

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I’m not sure what you’re smoking in your pipe. But having the most bubbly housing market in the  OECD isn’t something that should be celebrated with champagne. Unless YOU are a RE agent.

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Haha, I am the polar opposite of a RE agent, I can't stand them.

I wasn't passing judgement on whether you are right or wrong in terms of whether that's a good thing to do, I was passing judgement on what will (or won't happen).

And there's NO way in the world that that will happen. Hence, a pipe dream

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"it's a foregone conclusion that the Reserve Bank (RBNZ) will increase the Official Cash Rate (OCR)."

You'd think so, wouldn't you. But to do that will be self-defeating? When the economic strategy is "Inflation!! at all cost. It's the only way to pay down existing debt" we are about to find out if restricting access to Debt via its price (%) is in their playbook.

Governments and Central Banks responded to COVID by sustaining incomes (and in some cases actually increasing them) without sustaining supply (workers were still paid and produced nothing in return). The result was rising demand relative to supply.

Exactly. Is it any wonder that some look at, "why did we do it?" - shovel massive amounts of Government Debt out at COVID-19 when we didn't do it in response to previous pandemics. And guess what? There's more to come! Because those who fear Systemic Collapse think it's working. A clue - the economic end result will be worse than if we'd done nothing at all; much worse - because society is ageing = more and more people are going to be 'paid' to produce nothing. An ageing population doesn't have the disposable income to repay debts the way it once did, and most of it is now trapped - guess where!

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The wealthy don't vote for them so the smaller that number is the better, so a wealth transfer is good for them as the greater the transfer the greater their percentage that become state reliant and then ultimately their voter base... 

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Well I think its already pretty clear, the OCR should already be back at 1% so the aim of the RBNZ is to let rampant inflation to eat away the debt created by Covid. The big problem is that the banks are now Australia owned and are likely to just "Do their own thing". Its all smoke and mirrors, the RBNZ will be able to say look we held the OCR low while the banks are screwing you. 

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1/ The banks can't just "do their own thing" - they have no choice but to play by the rules, and

2/ the banking market in NZ is very lucrative - you've no doubt seen the enormous profits that they've been making over the last few years here. Foreign-owned banks are unlikely to leave anytime soon, and there is a very long list of them currently in the NZ market.

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The banks are already manipulating the RBNZ, it's easy to see who's really in charge...

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Why do you call an increase to the Offical Cash Rate a "hike" (with connotations similar to "grab") rather than the neutral "increase"? Do you believe there is an element of greed behind the reason for the increase?

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Clicks and ad views.

It's the same reason the media report on traffic light "freedoms being removed" rather than "health restrictions introduced"

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But I expect them to hike, because they said they would. They will most likely cut again in 2022 when Delta disruptions give them an opening to cut and still save face

Sounds about right... NZ hasn't even had a wave of covid deaths yet. After the Christmas holidays covid cases/deaths will surely spike and the hysteria will start all over again. RBNZ will panic and over react...

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Will they though? So long as CPI is above 3% rate cuts will be impossible to justify IMHO.

I think we may just have to eat a recession. 

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Covid is seasonal, just need to look at Europe. Next winter is when it will kick in here. I think they should give everyone a booster in late autumn. 

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We traded our jobs for debt that's what free trade was about. China got the jobs we got the debt.

The Fed's Moral Hazard Monster Is About to Lay Waste to "Wealth"

If net worth had tracked GDP growth since the peak of the dot-com bubble in 2000, it would be about $107 trillion--$53 trillion below current bubblicious levels. This can be understood as $53 trillion in phantom wealth generated by leveraging up the Federal Reserve's $8 trillion expansion of its balance sheet since 2008 seven-fold.

This highly leveraged phantom wealth will evaporate once the system can no longer contain all the risk that's been piled up by the Fed's Moral Hazard Monster.

Is it any different in NZ?

 

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And the hedge to financial system collapse is what.....AK47?

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Prepping is big business in the US mainly as vote of no convidence in their government. So yes, though you cannot buy one now, which is a good thing. A big difference between NZ and the US is the amount and style of weapons in circulation. 

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It wasnt a serious suggestion, rather a highlighting of the lack of options and the damage to come.

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Like Shamubeel, I am  bearish. But you all know that.

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It's clear Orr is bad for NZ economy and have no vision & totally clueless about the pain he is causing to average kiwi. The raise will be very small (0 or .25) and next 3 months property market will go up.

The interest rate is increased because of rising wholesale borrowing cost there is no action taken by govt to control the inflation and property price, this Govt & RBNZ has done there best to triple the property prices.

Even after nearly 2 years of Covid bullshit we are still in extremely lose financial policy set up, this will going to stay for another 2 years as elimination strategy is down the drain.

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Couldn't be more glaring it's only the Aussie bank economists screaming for a rate hike immediately. All others were saying be cautious, be careful and achtung.

Orr should contemplate flipping the bird on Aussie banks just like what Lowe did at RBA- sending them the message "don't try to teach daddy how procreation works".

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No. Lift it and go big. We need to start unwinding the stupidity of the rapid ocr drops last year.

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I think they were pretty sensible, it was a global pandemic with lockdowns and restrictions, no one was predicting the economy to be so strong. 

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not like it's there only job 

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I think banks have already raised interest rates enough for now at least. Time to take a break and see what happens. Maybe a 0.25% rise now to cement the existing bank rises. No point in killing the economy when inflation is only at 5%

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Did yo say inflation is ONLY 5%.

Wow 

Reserve banks party is over, time to actually think instead of just print and distribute money. If printing and distribution is the best solution that has been followed till now than why not make it a permanent feature.

Universal income, work only if want to and definitely not for money.

If economy as per reserve banks is doing fine, in fact is in good shape, employment under control than what is it that is preventing them to act, if worried that the moment they withdraw printing and distribution, market will react than rest assure that market will throw tantrums, whenever they decide.

Mr Orr is screwed along with fed  but USA being big and having diversified economy may survive the experiment but will be hard for small country like NZ, where only economy is housing, courtesy like of Orr's, Jacinda, Key....

This is just the beginning. Once more,  cash will be king particularly in stock market and high leverage in Housing market. Remember that whatever the reason, process has started in China and market tumbles when least expected.

‘The inflation genie is out of the bottle’ as consumer sentiment takes a hit and Californians pay $12 for a regular burrito: https://on.mktw.net/3c50alh

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5% isn’t that outrageous. You wouldn’t want it for years, but for a short period it’s ok. 

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Hold up, your actually trusting the CPI number????

Bullshit, we all know real inflation is well up in the double digits.

Taking the USA for example, if you look at money supply inflation, 40% of all USD has been created in the last 18 months. 

Their Cost of living inflation is at 6.2%, but if you used the same basket of goods as they defined the CPI as back in the 1980's, it is currently sitting at around 15%. CPI is all a load of bullshit because the people who are trying to hide inflation can just alter what is in the basket and VOILA, inflation just went down :) 

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refixing soon?

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But how much will it (the OCR) hike by, and is there actually a case that it shouldn't hike at all?

CPI 4.9% expected to peak at 6%

Unemployment rate 3.4%

 

No, there is no case or scenario at all that justifies leaving the OCR unchanged

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The RBNZ has inflation and employment mandates. It does not have OCR mandates.

There are good arguments to suggest lifting the OCR may have only limited effectiveness in cooling inflation, while it could generate quite negative impacts on employment.

They will lift the OCR, as much as anything to 'appear' to be doing something.

I am in a very small minority on this website who don't think the lift will be that much. It's interesting to read of a professional economist, Shamubeel Eaqub, having the same view.

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The RBNZ has inflation and employment mandates. It does not have OCR mandates

Yes but the OCR is the main tool the RB has to control inflation and employment

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But they don't have to use the tool, and why use it if it has minimal effect on inflation (one of their mandates) and a potential highly negative effect (depending on how high they might raise the OCR) on employment (their other mandate).

They WILL raise the OCR, even if it's not really effective, because they have said they will, and because they need to look like they are doing something.

I just don't think they will raise it that much.

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It's not just the financial and asset re-sale industries, is it! But at least the participant in this 'market' was upfront with his motive!

“The industry is corrupt from top to bottom. He isn’t the cause here, he’s a symptom. I suspect many more cases like this would appear if the world were investigated thoroughly. While his actions were dishonest and criminal in nature, he’s part of an industry sick from top to bottom where this sort of behaviour is sadly commonplace."  When asked by Judge Stein, why he committed the crime, Philbrick said “for the money, your honour”. He was also ordered to forfeit more than $86 million (£63.9 million).

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/20/did-money-says-art-double-d…

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What this article shows clearly is how bank economists push relentlessly for OCR increases when their employers have already priced rises into their money-grabbing mortgage rate increases. Banks make big money by getting ahead of rate rises and then lagging behind rate reductions. Banks are clearly pulling RBNZ by the nose here.

Worth remembering that increasing OCR will:

  • Mean consumers have to pay higher mortgage payments (not included in CPI) - thus reducing the affordability of goods and services 
  • Put pressure on rents as landlords seek to maintain their yields
  • Increase futures prices through the forward pricing channel
  • Do absolutely nothing to reduce prices determined by factors way outside out control (unlikely to persuade the Saudis to lower the price of oil)
  • Slow house price growth down (highly unlikely to reverse it)
  • Do nothing to meaningfully change borrowing or saving preferences 

So, increasing the OCR achieves what? Higher profits for banks, a few extra dollars for savers, less affordable goods and services for the whole population, and, in all likelihood, lower demand and more people thrown out of work and onto benefits?    

 

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It means you have some ammo to fight the next downturn ie the ability to cut interest rates

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If we have learned one thing from the last 18 months it is that you fight downturns with fiscal policy - the only effect that loose monetary policy had was to inflate asset prices. Why would we do that again?

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So last 18 months was trial class of learning for economist, are they amateur drumheads who can learn by doing & have gained 0 knowledge and experience from studying economics and getting top class qualification.

No one will take accountability of the shitty decisions of cutting OCR & removing LVR without substantial reason and logic.

Monetary policy is still loose and inflating the asset price. If Orr cut OCR on name of employment & Economic growth in that case both are doing well now don't give idiotic reason to stay low, go for .50% increase and at-least try to stop inflating the asset further. 

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Not sure I understand your first paragraph. I do however hold limited respect for most economists. I spent decades as an engineer - working on complex systems and using maths that had to work or things exploded (and people got covered in sh*t). Many of the models and methods that economists apply to real world complex systems are a complete joke. Monetary policy (and Phillips Curve, NAIRU etc) are particularly bad - more like 'reckonomics' or maybe 'wreckonomics' would be more apt.

Anyway, to your point, favourable tax and policy settings are driving house price inflation - interest rates changes within any reasonable bounds will either speed up or slow down the continued growth. This is empirically clear if you plot change in house price vs change in interest rates overtime.

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Let's throw that logic back at you - rather than talking about the change now, tell us what levels you think interest rates should generally be at.

If the answer is permanently zero, you've shown your stripes.

My question would be, what more would it take for your mob to accept interest rates of a meaningfully positive level?

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I have some sympathy for the zero rate argument (does that get me half my stripes?) However, I think deflation is pretty dangerous, so I would go for a long-term fixed 1.5% OCR (payable on settlement deposits) and use the same level of 1.5% indexation on minimum wage, benefits, Govt public service wages, social housing rents, and contracts let by Government - this would anchor inflation close to a steady 1.5% increase per year. Bonds would become Govt-backed safe assets paying the same coupon rate. 

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The distinction between you and Adrian isn't that great then. He is just saying he wants get back to neutral ASAP and leave it there. They estimate neutral rates at 2% rather than 1.5%.

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It is the rest of the settings that matter - the OCR is a bit part of the system that just needs locking down so that we can get on with the  job of actually managing the economic system and deliver what voters want - decent housing, a wage that pays the bills, swimmable rivers, water you can drink etc.

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Interest rate cuts will be needed in 2022/23 as NZ hits very heavy head economic winds.  
Notice Australia is not panicking re OCR.  

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Yes, probably late 2022 or early 2023.

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They ain’t done with Delta yet, more episodes to come in 2022.

Let’s pull back spending because that’s what they want people to do. And don’t bother building new houses because material shortages making it all too expensive and stressful, buy an existing house and be done with it …oh wait they don’t want us to do that.

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